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NSUN/WA category name changes

Postby Minoa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:23 am

Hi there,

I am currently creating a database of passed NSUN resolutions on NSindex and I have noticed two things:
  1. The Human Rights category had been changed to Civil Rights (example);
  2. One of the Area of Effect options in the Environmental category had changed from All Businesses to All Businesses - Strong (example).
If I recall correctly, the old names for both had continued into the WA era until recently, so I wish to ask if there is a way for the game to revive the old category/area of effect names for resolutions that were enacted in the UN era (only), as a matter of historical fact?

Secondly, I wish to know the date when the renaming of the Human Rights category took effect. According to the Web Archive, the old name continued until early-2017 at the very least.

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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:14 am

See viewtopic.php?f=9&t=449734&hilit=%22areas+of+effect%22.
The change to 'Environmental' was a few weeks (months? less than a year, anyway) before that... and it wasn't just from 'All Businesses' to 'All Businesses -Strong' it was to a choice between 'All Businesses -Strong' and the long-awaited 'All Businesses - Mild'.
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Postby Minoa » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:02 am

Bears Armed wrote:See viewtopic.php?f=9&t=449734&hilit=%22areas+of+effect%22.
The change to 'Environmental' was a few weeks (months? less than a year, anyway) before that... and it wasn't just from 'All Businesses' to 'All Businesses -Strong' it was to a choice between 'All Businesses -Strong' and the long-awaited 'All Businesses - Mild'.

I have most of the revision history in the WA era covered now; thanks.

However, I would personally appreciate if the NS-UN resolutions continued to be referred by their old category/effect names as a matter of historical record. I believe that it was not the intention of the WA Secretariat to change the category names for historical resolutions, especially since they are supposed to be frozen in time, so to speak.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:51 am

Minoa wrote:I believe that it was not the intention of the WA Secretariat to change the category names for historical resolutions,

It's a coding inevitability. Example: if the database category for proposals originally named "Human Rights" gets renamed "Civil Rights", all extant resolutions of that type get a name change. The passed resolution tables are still encoded as database entries, not plain text. It literally can't be helped.

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Postby Minoa » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:51 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Minoa wrote:I believe that it was not the intention of the WA Secretariat to change the category names for historical resolutions,

It's a coding inevitability. Example: if the database category for proposals originally named "Human Rights" gets renamed "Civil Rights", all extant resolutions of that type get a name change. The passed resolution tables are still encoded as database entries, not plain text. It literally can't be helped.

Hi,

For the record, I wish to reassure you that I did not expect the category/effect names to be encoded in plain text (since I have dealt with databases while operating NSindex): I was thinking more like creating ‘legacy’ category/effect IDs for NSUN resolutions to reference. Unlike the WA resolutions, where I can understand the concern about category groups, I do not think there is a major issue in doing that for NSUN resolutions, so I think it is worth a shot.

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