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Presidential elections of Brazil 2018 (Second Round/POLL)

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Who will be the president of Brazil?

Poll runs till Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:02 am

Fernando Haddad (Worker´s Party/Partido dos Trabalhadores) Left-Wing / Lulism
54
39%
Jair Bolsonaro (Social Liberal Party/Partido Social Liberal) Right-Wing/ Nationalist
69
50%
Blank/Null
16
12%
 
Total votes : 139

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Presidential elections of Brazil 2018 (Second Round/POLL)

Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:02 am

Brazilian presidential elections 2018
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Results from first round:
1.Jair Bolsonaro with 46,03%. Votes:49.275.358.
2. Fernando Haddad with 29,28%. Votes:31.341.839.


Second round:
Bolsonaro from Social Liberal Party X Haddad from Worker´s Party




The result of the first round was expected: Bolsonaro and Haddad in first and second place respectively. The second round promises to be very complicated for the two candidates, who will have to attract voters from the other candidates and also from those who vote blank or null

You can find info about the candidates here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Brazil

The second round will happen in October 28.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:47 am

Omega State wrote:The elections in Brazil will be tomorrow. I would like to know the general opinion of NS and also of my Brazilian brothers. My vote is in Marina Silva.


I am an American, and I am sympathetic to Silva. I noticed that she her poll numbers have gone down quite a bit lately. Do you have any idea why?
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:48 am

I didn’t realise Brazil got around to holding elections.
I just thought the last candidate to not be shot got the job.
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Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:50 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Omega State wrote:The elections in Brazil will be tomorrow. I would like to know the general opinion of NS and also of my Brazilian brothers. My vote is in Marina Silva.


I am an American, and I am sympathetic to Silva. I noticed that she her poll numbers have gone down quite a bit lately. Do you have any idea why?

Honestly speaking, I think the main reason is the dominance of the candidates Bolsonaro and Haddad. She defends good ideas, however, the Brazilian people are tired of assaults, insecurity and poor education. Therefore, most of the votes go to extremes, not giving the centrists a chance like Silva.
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Postby New Sortitia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:59 am

Colombian here. Brazil needs Bolsonaro, Latin America needs Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro is the only one who can stop the drug-dealing, terrorist and corrupt criminals of the populist left-wing of the continent. We need to get rid of them everywhere.

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Postby Nova Brazilis » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:20 am

Olá, brasileiro aqui.
Eu acho que não temos como melhorar a situação do país por enquanto, infelizmente, pois a maioria do povo brasileiro desconhece sobre política, muitos sequer sabem o que um presidente faz. Existem candidatos com propostas sólidas e interessantes, como Meirelles e Marina Silva por exemplo, mas aparentemente aqueles que possuem pequena compreensão sobre política só defendem radicais como Bolsonaro e Haddad, deixando de lado os candidatos centristas, muitos com excelentes propostas. Concluindo, se formos depender do povo brasileiro, a situação não vai melhorar tão cedo e pode até mesmo piorar :(

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:21 am

Right wing humour squad wrote:I didn’t realise Brazil got around to holding elections.
I just thought the last candidate to not be shot got the job.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:21 am

Nova Brazilis wrote:Olá, brasileiro aqui.
Eu acho que não temos como melhorar a situação do país por enquanto, infelizmente, pois a maioria do povo brasileiro desconhece sobre política, muitos sequer sabem o que um presidente faz. Existem candidatos com propostas sólidas e interessantes, como Meirelles e Marina Silva por exemplo, mas aparentemente aqueles que possuem pequena compreensão sobre política só defendem radicais como Bolsonaro e Haddad, deixando de lado os candidatos centristas, muitos com excelentes propostas. Concluindo, se formos depender do povo brasileiro, a situação não vai melhorar tão cedo e pode até mesmo piorar :(

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Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:25 am

Nova Brazilis wrote:Olá, brasileiro aqui.
Eu acho que não temos como melhorar a situação do país por enquanto, infelizmente, pois a maioria do povo brasileiro desconhece sobre política, muitos sequer sabem o que um presidente faz. Existem candidatos com propostas sólidas e interessantes, como Meirelles e Marina Silva por exemplo, mas aparentemente aqueles que possuem pequena compreensão sobre política só defendem radicais como Bolsonaro e Haddad, deixando de lado os candidatos centristas, muitos com excelentes propostas. Concluindo, se formos depender do povo brasileiro, a situação não vai melhorar tão cedo e pode até mesmo piorar :(

Concordo. Mas Meirelles não é confiavel justamente por fazer parte da turma do Temer.
I agree. But Meirelles is not trustworthy precisely because he is part of the Temer class.
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Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nova Brazilis wrote:Olá, brasileiro aqui.
Eu acho que não temos como melhorar a situação do país por enquanto, infelizmente, pois a maioria do povo brasileiro desconhece sobre política, muitos sequer sabem o que um presidente faz. Existem candidatos com propostas sólidas e interessantes, como Meirelles e Marina Silva por exemplo, mas aparentemente aqueles que possuem pequena compreensão sobre política só defendem radicais como Bolsonaro e Haddad, deixando de lado os candidatos centristas, muitos com excelentes propostas. Concluindo, se formos depender do povo brasileiro, a situação não vai melhorar tão cedo e pode até mesmo piorar :(

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I think we can not improve the situation in the country for now, unfortunately, because most of the Brazilian people are ignorant about politics, many do not even know what a president does. There are candidates with solid and interesting proposals, such as Meirelles and Marina Silva for example, but apparently those who have little understanding of politics only defend radicals like Bolsonaro and Haddad, leaving aside the centrist candidates, many with excellent proposals. In conclusion, if we are to depend on the Brazilian people, the situation will not improve anytime soon and may even get worse :(
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:26 am

New Sortitia wrote:Colombian here. Brazil needs Bolsonaro, Latin America needs Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro is the only one who can stop the drug-dealing, terrorist and corrupt criminals of the populist left-wing of the continent. We need to get rid of them everywhere.

1. The Latin American left =/= Latin American gangs and drug cartels.
2. Jair Bolsonaro is blatantly sexist and homophobic (congresswoman "not worth raping"? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?) and supports the Brazilian military dictatorship and its actions (which makes him no better than Brazil's gangs and drug cartels)

Edit: Unsurprisingly, I support anyone who isn't Bolsonaro.
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Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:30 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
New Sortitia wrote:Colombian here. Brazil needs Bolsonaro, Latin America needs Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro is the only one who can stop the drug-dealing, terrorist and corrupt criminals of the populist left-wing of the continent. We need to get rid of them everywhere.

1. The Latin American left =/= Latin American gangs and drug cartels.
2. Jair Bolsonaro is blatantly sexist and homophobic (congresswoman "not worth raping"? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?) and supports the Brazilian military dictatorship and its actions (which makes him no better than Brazil's gangs and drug cartels)

Edit: Unsurprisingly, I support anyone who isn't Bolsonaro.

The majority of the population here is afraid of the high rates of homicide, femicide, rape, bank and people robberies and LGBTphobia. Therefore, they seek candidates who strive for a tough and rigid security policy, which in this case, Bolsonaro is in favor of.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:35 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
New Sortitia wrote:Colombian here. Brazil needs Bolsonaro, Latin America needs Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro is the only one who can stop the drug-dealing, terrorist and corrupt criminals of the populist left-wing of the continent. We need to get rid of them everywhere.

1. The Latin American left =/= Latin American gangs and drug cartels.
2. Jair Bolsonaro is blatantly sexist and homophobic (congresswoman "not worth raping"? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?) and supports the Brazilian military dictatorship and its actions (which makes him no better than Brazil's gangs and drug cartels)

Edit: Unsurprisingly, I support anyone who isn't Bolsonaro.

I support the Brazilian military dictatorship too. Actually I support all military dictatorships
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:40 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:1. The Latin American left =/= Latin American gangs and drug cartels.
2. Jair Bolsonaro is blatantly sexist and homophobic (congresswoman "not worth raping"? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?) and supports the Brazilian military dictatorship and its actions (which makes him no better than Brazil's gangs and drug cartels)

Edit: Unsurprisingly, I support anyone who isn't Bolsonaro.

I support the Brazilian military dictatorship too. Actually I support all military dictatorships

So you support systematic torture, executions and death fights for political opponents? You're just as bad, if not worse, as Latin America's infamous gangs and drug cartels.

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:41 am

Omega State wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:1. The Latin American left =/= Latin American gangs and drug cartels.
2. Jair Bolsonaro is blatantly sexist and homophobic (congresswoman "not worth raping"? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?) and supports the Brazilian military dictatorship and its actions (which makes him no better than Brazil's gangs and drug cartels)

Edit: Unsurprisingly, I support anyone who isn't Bolsonaro.

The majority of the population here is afraid of the high rates of homicide, femicide, rape, bank and people robberies and LGBTphobia. Therefore, they seek candidates who strive for a tough and rigid security policy, which in this case, Bolsonaro is in favor of.

Great. They want Brazil to descend to the level of its criminals.

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Without more detailed info about parties, it is kinda hard for me to decide. But my vote would go for Silva, personally. Second pick (or ''B'' pick) probably would be Ciro Gomes.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:43 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I support the Brazilian military dictatorship too. Actually I support all military dictatorships

So you support systematic torture, executions and death fights for political opponents? You're just as bad, if not worse, as Latin America's infamous gangs and drug cartels.

I’m practically a Stalinist. I really don’t care what you think.
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Postby Omega State » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:45 am

Silver Commonwealth wrote:Without more detailed info about parties, it is kinda hard for me to decide. But my vote would go for Silva, personally. Second pick (or ''B'' pick) probably would be Ciro Gomes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Brazil
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Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Omega State wrote:The majority of the population here is afraid of the high rates of homicide, femicide, rape, bank and people robberies and LGBTphobia. Therefore, they seek candidates who strive for a tough and rigid security policy, which in this case, Bolsonaro is in favor of.

Great. They want Brazil to descend to the level of its criminals.

Apparently.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:48 am

Omega State wrote:
Silver Commonwealth wrote:Without more detailed info about parties, it is kinda hard for me to decide. But my vote would go for Silva, personally. Second pick (or ''B'' pick) probably would be Ciro Gomes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Brazil

Okay. Why is Bolsonaro a candidate of Partido Social Liberal, though? I have heard, that he isn't that democratic. Or is there something I missed about Brazilian politics?
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Okay. Why is Bolsonaro a candidate of Partido Social Liberal, though? I have heard, that he isn't that democratic. Or is there something I missed about Brazilian politics?

Many other political parties around the world have such misnomers, such as the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (which really is an ultranationalist authoritarian party)

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Okay. Why is Bolsonaro a candidate of Partido Social Liberal, though? I have heard, that he isn't that democratic. Or is there something I missed about Brazilian politics?

It's understandable that you do not understand. Well, before Bolsonaro joined the PSL, the PSL was a libertarian party. However the PSL also has a more "nationalist and conservative" wing. As Bolsonaro was looking for a party without corruption cases, he chose the PSL. The libertarian wing left the party and the PSL became a conservative party. It's kind of confusing indeed, just like the name of the Nazi party in Nazi Germany, where it had "Socialist", being that they were totally against the Socialists.
As for Bolsonaro not being democratic, this is difficult to say. I'd say he's a bit "extreme", but not totally against democracy.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:57 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Silver Commonwealth wrote:Okay. Why is Bolsonaro a candidate of Partido Social Liberal, though? I have heard, that he isn't that democratic. Or is there something I missed about Brazilian politics?

Many other political parties around the world have such misnomers, such as the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (which really is an ultranationalist authoritarian party)

The one, which is led by Zhirinovsky? That dude is a total meme.
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Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:Many other political parties around the world have such misnomers, such as the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (which really is an ultranationalist authoritarian party)

The one, which is led by Zhirinovsky? That dude is a total meme.

Yeah. Specifically, a Slav meme

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Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:Many other political parties around the world have such misnomers, such as the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (which really is an ultranationalist authoritarian party)

The one, which is led by Zhirinovsky? That dude is a total meme.

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Economic: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.28

I make dumb jokes. I'm really serious about that. Yes, we're pretty much a different Australia.

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