Does “Fascist” Mean Anything Anymore?

[The Republic of Fore]

Sure. It means "someone who doesn't blindly agree with me". Similar terms include Nazi, racist, and trumptard.

[Torrocca]

Sure. It means "someone who doesn't blindly agree with me". Similar terms include Nazi, racist, and trumptard.

AH, yes, I too remember when the collective peoples of Poland, France, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, the rest of the USSR, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, the United States, etc. only hated Nazis for not blindly agreeing with them.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sure. It means "someone who doesn't blindly agree with me". Similar terms include Nazi, racist, and trumptard.

AH, yes, I too remember when the collective peoples of Poland, France, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, the rest of the USSR, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, the United States, etc. only hated Nazis for not blindly agreeing with them.

In the past sure it meant something, but nowadays Nazi is a meaningless buzzword. Ffs people think Trump is a Nazi.

Trump. The degenerate billionaire who has a Jewish daughter and a Jewish son in law.

[Torrocca]

AH, yes, I too remember when the collective peoples of Poland, France, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, the rest of the USSR, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, the United States, etc. only hated Nazis for not blindly agreeing with them.

In the past sure it meant something, but nowadays Nazi is a meaningless buzzword. Ffs people think Trump is a Nazi.

Trump. The degenerate billionaire who has a Jewish daughter and a Jewish son in law.

Hitler's personal chauffeur, Emil Maurice, was a Jewish Nazi.

[Nekokuni]

There is a lot of abuse of the word Fascist, but it is hardly unique (you had loads of conservatives calling Obama a socialist and comparing him to Lenin back between 08 - 16) and a lot of the time it is used, it's usually because the one accused has expressed some far-right opinion which would be right at home with fascists.

[Washington Resistance Army]

In the past sure it meant something, but nowadays Nazi is a meaningless buzzword. Ffs people think Trump is a Nazi.

Trump. The degenerate billionaire who has a Jewish daughter and a Jewish son in law.

Hitler's personal chauffeur, Emil Maurice, was a Jewish Nazi.

He had a Jewish grandfather, and the only reason the SS didn't fucking murder him is because Hitler wouldn't allow it and personally declared him an Honorary Aryan iirc.

[Torrocca]

Hitler's personal chauffeur, Emil Maurice, was a Jewish Nazi.

He had a Jewish grandfather, and the only reason the SS didn't fucking murder him is because Hitler wouldn't allow it and personally declared him an Honorary Aryan iirc.

Which doesn't change my point whatsoever. :3

[Ardiveds]

Most people confuse fascist with Nazism. Fascism is a awkward ideology but hardly as bad as people say it is. Fascism does not mean genocides since genocides have even been conducted by Communist nations. Italy was also a fascist nation and I don't hear about any genocides they committed. Nowadays, people simply just go with the wrong meaning and lable their political opponents to gain a dillutional moral high ground.

[Seangoli]

Most people confuse fascist with Nazism. Fascism is a awkward ideology but hardly as bad as people say it is. Fascism does not mean genocides since genocides have even been conducted by Communist nations. Italy was also a fascist nation and I don't hear about any genocides they committed. Nowadays, people simply just go with the wrong meaning and lable their political opponents to gain a dillutional moral high ground.

Mussolini emacted laws that significantly reduced the rights of Jews and deported about 8000 Italian jews to German concetration camps. He also wasn't much a fan of Slavs or Africans. The Slavs particularly had it bad, as Mussolini went full-in Holocaust against them, amd forming multiple concentration camps for Slavs, imprisoning and killing tems of thousands for the simple fact that they were slavic.


Italian Fascism was heavily leaning on an Italian ethnic identity. Ethno-nationalism is a hallmarck of many fascist states, as it provides a clear demarcation of whom belomgs to the national identity and who does not. And from there it is a short jaunt into "Genocide land."

[Kanadorika]

Most people confuse fascist with Nazism. Fascism is a awkward ideology but hardly as bad as people say it is. Fascism does not mean genocides since genocides have even been conducted by Communist nations. Italy was also a fascist nation and I don't hear about any genocides they committed. Nowadays, people simply just go with the wrong meaning and lable their political opponents to gain a dillutional moral high ground.

Mussolini emacted laws that significantly reduced the rights of Jews and deported about 8000 Italian jews to German concetration camps. He also wasn't much a fan of Slavs or Africans.


Italian Fascism was heavily leaning on an Italian ethnic identity. Ethno-nationalism is a hallmarck of many fascist states, as it provides a clear demarcation of whom belomgs to the national identity and who does not. And from there it is a short jaunt into "Genocide land."

Corporatist Austria however was thoroughly Fascist in ideology, and Jews would flee from Nazi Germany to Austria. Austrofascism itself was often strongly supported by many Jews who lived in the nation, and the state had no problem funding Jewish musicians, athletes, and artists.

[Kanadorika]

Sure. It means "someone who doesn't blindly agree with me". Similar terms include Nazi, racist, and trumptard.

AH, yes, I too remember when the collective peoples of Poland, France, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, the rest of the USSR, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, the United States, etc. only hated Nazis for not blindly agreeing with them.

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

[Seangoli]

AH, yes, I too remember when the collective peoples of Poland, France, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, the rest of the USSR, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, the United States, etc. only hated Nazis for not blindly agreeing with them.

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

[Sefy the Great]

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

in the terminology i use, "nazis" are the nazi dictatorship, third reich, so on so forth. "neo-nazis" are their supporters, be they misguided, brainwashed or crazy.

[Internationalist Bastard]

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

To my knowledge he’s just a white supremacist
He hasn’t really lined up with any Nazi political or economic policy other than being a monster who thinks white ethnostate is the future

[Kyrinasaj]

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

Most people Hitler hated were other ''white people''. Also Hitler didn't want a new Roman empire.

[Major-Tom]

It's an overused word when it comes to trying to smear someone politically, but the definition remains the same, even if some folks wanna just throw the word around.

[Seangoli]

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

Most people Hitler hated were other ''white people''. Also Hitler didn't want a new Roman empire.

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You do understamd what "The Third Reich" refers to, right?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Most people Hitler hated were other ''white people''. Also Hitler didn't want a new Roman empire.

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You do understamd what "The Third Reich" refers to, right?

The third German Empire, succeeding the Holy Roman and German empires

[Trumptonium1]

I get called fascist for having views that are not only common sense but government policy as little as 25 years ago, so yeah, personally I find it to be little more than a buzzword.

Could be the fact you more than openly peddle Fascistic policies like they're some grand thing, rather than you peddling """common sense""" policies.

Nah.

[Terrans Defense Pact]

This question need to start from definition of "fasсist". There's a lot of definition of that, becouse no one would stay a capitalist after understanding that fascist is just a dictatorship of the huge capital plus militarisation. Capital is allways growing, most of the countries in the world start to moving at that direction (becouse communists countries are bitten) not so many understand what is going on. So, the trouble not in calling fascist everyone - it is just a result of absence of definition of fashism in mass consciousness
(Sorry for bad english)

[Torrocca]

Could be the fact you more than openly peddle Fascistic policies like they're some grand thing, rather than you peddling """common sense""" policies.

Nah.

Yeah. :^3

[Aellex]

I get called fascist for having views that are not only common sense but government policy as little as 25 years ago, so yeah, personally I find it to be little more than a buzzword.

Could be the fact you more than openly peddle Fascistic policies like they're some grand thing, rather than you peddling """common sense""" policies.

>mfw conservative policies are fascistic now
Fam, pls.

[Second Empire of America]

Sadly, it doesn't mean much anymore. Way too overused.

Trump isn't a Fascist, he's just an asshole.

You get the sense that he sort of wants to be Benito Mussolini, but can't quite pull it off.

Trump meets the definition of fascist, but he needs the support of congressional Republicans to govern, and most of them aren't fascists. The only congressional Republicans I can think of who are fascists are Ted Cruz and Steve King.

"Nazi", however, specifically refers to the antisemitic and German supremacist political movement created by Hitler, and doesn't really apply to other fascists.

[Trumptonium1]

You get the sense that he sort of wants to be Benito Mussolini, but can't quite pull it off.

Trump meets the definition of fascist

enlighten us

[The Emerald Legion]

No, they were Nazis for literally holding membership in the Nazi Party and hated for rampaging through Europe, something most people today who get accused of being Nazis haven't done.

Amd somr people called Nazis are pretty much Nazis. Richard Spencer, for instance, is certainly a Nazi given that he supports the creation of a white ethno-state devoid of nonwhite indiciduals, supports social programs to promote the strengthening of said ethnostate, and literally wants to reform the Roman Empire in North America for this reason. Most of his rhetoric is straight out of Nazi propaganda, and he basically desires lebenstraum for white people. Yet people deny he is a Nazi, even though he supports pretty much all of the basic Philosophy associated with thr movement.


Nazis do not necessarily need to rampage across the land to be Nazis, and them trying to ne coy about it isn't fooling anyone.

The issue with this, is the idea of a 'White Ethno-State' or 'European Ethno-State' would be.... rather anti-Nazi. The Nazi's hated TONS of white people. Just ask the Jews, Slavs, Poles, Romani, the Spanish and any number of other people the Nazi's decided were deficient in some way.

That's the thing I really don't understand about this bizarre understanding of 'Nazism being for white people' No. No it's not. That's why Neo-Nazi's are idiots, Richard Spencer and his entire family would have been killed in the Holocaust if they had lived in Germany at the time. Because guess what? They're Eastern European in heritage.