[PASSED] International Bankruptcy Protocol

[Separatist Peoples]

"Ambassador, you want me to, within the 5,000 character limit of GA proposals, do a survey of bankruptcy law for 20,000 member states? And still fit in a lengthy resolution? Simply not possible."

I did not say the descriptions of different types of bankruptcy had to be lengthy, did I?

"I would be able to spare one character, including spaces, for every four nations. Assuming that even every one hundred nations had a substantially similar bankruptcy code, you are asking for 25 characters per system. The word Bankruptcy alone has 10 characters. Between the following space and punctuation, I would have to expend half my characters per system just to write the topic word, and that would use all my available characters. Your suggestion, while I am sure was well-intended, is blithely ignorant of the rules governing GA proposals, ambassador, and I would not have heeded it even if I had not submitted the proposal already."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Elsie. Why the long face, Sir Benjamin? I hear those acting for terror sabres can fit a whole description in just a quarter of a character. Only primitives would be unable to be so incredibly succinct.

[Bananaistan]

"This proposal is cromulent in terms of the Socialism in All Countries policy and provides some small level of consequence for reckless capitalists and exploiters by preventing them from using a foreign jurisdiction to shelter assets from creditors, and in most business insolvency cases, a member state's taxation authorities are the most significant creditor. We vote in favour."

- Ted

[Untecna]

I did not say the descriptions of different types of bankruptcy had to be lengthy, did I?

"I would be able to spare one character, including spaces, for every four nations. Assuming that even every one hundred nations had a substantially similar bankruptcy code, you are asking for 25 characters per system. The word Bankruptcy alone has 10 characters. Between the following space and punctuation, I would have to expend half my characters per system just to write the topic word, and that would use all my available characters. Your suggestion, while I am sure was well-intended, is blithely ignorant of the rules governing GA proposals, ambassador, and I would not have heeded it even if I had not submitted the proposal already."

"Ambassador, I see your point. But I still think it would be crucial. Sorry."

They really need to expand the limit, because some resolutions need more space than others, and it would make resolutions be able to outline more things.

[Kenmoria]

"I would be able to spare one character, including spaces, for every four nations. Assuming that even every one hundred nations had a substantially similar bankruptcy code, you are asking for 25 characters per system. The word Bankruptcy alone has 10 characters. Between the following space and punctuation, I would have to expend half my characters per system just to write the topic word, and that would use all my available characters. Your suggestion, while I am sure was well-intended, is blithely ignorant of the rules governing GA proposals, ambassador, and I would not have heeded it even if I had not submitted the proposal already."

"Ambassador, I see your point. But I still think it would be crucial. Sorry."

They really need to expand the limit, because some resolutions need more space than others, and it would make resolutions be able to outline more things.

(OOC: It used to be just 3000, until quite recently. I feel as though it’s possible to legislate fully within that limit by relying on good-faith compliance. Spelling everything out, though possibly more desirable, isn’t truly needed.)

[Eluney]

Herrera asks to speak, arranges some papers, takes off his glasses and looks straight ahead ... "This proposal brings to my mind a phrase that I think is attributed to a certain Benjamin Franklin ... What was it like? ... Ah, yes: Rather go to bed without dinner than to rise in debt"... With a knowing smile, he continues..." Yes, this Delegation is convinced that by supporting this proposal, all Nations will have a more solid legal framework to collaborate in bankruptcy proceedings ... And that more debtors can go to sleep having had dinner earlier".

Mr. Carlos Alejandro Herrera.
Permanent Representative of the Federal Republic of Eluney to the World Assembly.

[Separatist Peoples]

"I would be able to spare one character, including spaces, for every four nations. Assuming that even every one hundred nations had a substantially similar bankruptcy code, you are asking for 25 characters per system. The word Bankruptcy alone has 10 characters. Between the following space and punctuation, I would have to expend half my characters per system just to write the topic word, and that would use all my available characters. Your suggestion, while I am sure was well-intended, is blithely ignorant of the rules governing GA proposals, ambassador, and I would not have heeded it even if I had not submitted the proposal already."

"Ambassador, I see your point. But I still think it would be crucial. Sorry."

They really need to expand the limit, because some resolutions need more space than others, and it would make resolutions be able to outline more things.

"Your suggestion is impractical and assumes that it is my responsibility as the author to educate ambassadors on foreign bankruptcy law. It is the responsibility of every delegation to do their own research. No other resolution has ever done this. It is not crucial, and with most delegations, I would be forced to question your motivations for such a demand, since the same demand from some delegations is designed to exhaust authors into giving up."

[Untecna]

"Ambassador, I see your point. But I still think it would be crucial. Sorry."

They really need to expand the limit, because some resolutions need more space than others, and it would make resolutions be able to outline more things.

"Your suggestion is impractical and assumes that it is my responsibility as the author to educate ambassadors on foreign bankruptcy law. It is the responsibility of every delegation to do their own research. No other resolution has ever done this. It is not crucial, and with most delegations, I would be forced to question your motivations for such a demand, since the same demand from some delegations is designed to exhaust authors into giving up."

"Well, if I may speak my point, I understand that most nations, written or not, have laws guiding bankruptcy chapters already. I said that the first time. However, I believe that to get the point across better, there needs to be some things added. I'm sorry if this upsets you, Ambassador, but it is my own opinion on it.

[OOC: All nations really should write down their laws. It would make it more transparent and easier to know who does what in there nation]

[Untecna]

"Your suggestion is impractical and assumes that it is my responsibility as the author to educate ambassadors on foreign bankruptcy law. It is the responsibility of every delegation to do their own research. No other resolution has ever done this. It is not crucial, and with most delegations, I would be forced to question your motivations for such a demand, since the same demand from some delegations is designed to exhaust authors into giving up."

"Well, if I may speak my point, I understand that most nations, written or not, have laws guiding bankruptcy chapters already. I said that the first time. However, I believe that to get the point across better, there needs to be some things added. I'm sorry if this upsets you, Ambassador, but it is my own opinion on it.

[OOC: All nations really should write down their laws. It would make it more transparent and easier to know who does what in there nation]

[OOC: The International Bankruptcy Code would be a better name ]

[Separatist Peoples]

"Your suggestion is impractical and assumes that it is my responsibility as the author to educate ambassadors on foreign bankruptcy law. It is the responsibility of every delegation to do their own research. No other resolution has ever done this. It is not crucial, and with most delegations, I would be forced to question your motivations for such a demand, since the same demand from some delegations is designed to exhaust authors into giving up."

"Well, if I may speak my point, I understand that most nations, written or not, have laws guiding bankruptcy chapters already. I said that the first time. However, I believe that to get the point across better, there needs to be some things added. I'm sorry if this upsets you, Ambassador, but it is my own opinion on it.

[OOC: All nations really should write down their laws. It would make it more transparent and easier to know who does what in there nation]

"it appears, ambassador, that the rest of the voting body has little issues understanding the point without the inclusion. I respectfully submit that the fault lies with you and not with the proposal."

Ooc: most players have never thought about bankruptcy and are in no position to write their own code. The US bankruptcy code is occasionally baffling even to US bankruptcy attorneys. I think you expect too much of players.

"Well, if I may speak my point, I understand that most nations, written or not, have laws guiding bankruptcy chapters already. I said that the first time. However, I believe that to get the point across better, there needs to be some things added. I'm sorry if this upsets you, Ambassador, but it is my own opinion on it.

[OOC: All nations really should write down their laws. It would make it more transparent and easier to know who does what in there nation]

[OOC: The International Bankruptcy Code would be a better name ]

Ooc: but this is not a code. It does not exhaustively address a topic. It is an extremely modest procedure to facilitate applications of codes. Protocol is fitting, albeit not perfectly so, as this addresses no substantive bankruptcy matters, only procedure. Act would have been appropriate, but dull. Procedure would have been too on-the-nose. Rules would have been misleading. Pact or Compact is right out. I think Protocol was my best bet.

[Untecna]

"Well, if I may speak my point, I understand that most nations, written or not, have laws guiding bankruptcy chapters already. I said that the first time. However, I believe that to get the point across better, there needs to be some things added. I'm sorry if this upsets you, Ambassador, but it is my own opinion on it.

[OOC: All nations really should write down their laws. It would make it more transparent and easier to know who does what in there nation]

"it appears, ambassador, that the rest of the voting body has little issues understanding the point without the inclusion. I respectfully submit that the fault lies with you and not with the proposal."

Ooc: most players have never thought about bankruptcy and are in no position to write their own code. The US bankruptcy code is occasionally baffling even to US bankruptcy attorneys. I think you expect too much of players.

[OOC: The International Bankruptcy Code would be a better name ]

Ooc: but this is not a code. It does not exhaustively address a topic. It is an extremely modest procedure to facilitate applications of codes. Protocol is fitting, albeit not perfectly so, as this addresses no substantive bankruptcy matters, only procedure. Act would have been appropriate, but dull. Procedure would have been too on-the-nose. Rules would have been misleading. Pact or Compact is right out. I think Protocol was my best bet.

"Again, it is simply my opinion on the topic. I feel as if you are trying to either infringe on my opinion, or influence it. I regard that as rudeness."

[Separatist Peoples]

"it appears, ambassador, that the rest of the voting body has little issues understanding the point without the inclusion. I respectfully submit that the fault lies with you and not with the proposal."

Ooc: most players have never thought about bankruptcy and are in no position to write their own code. The US bankruptcy code is occasionally baffling even to US bankruptcy attorneys. I think you expect too much of players.



Ooc: but this is not a code. It does not exhaustively address a topic. It is an extremely modest procedure to facilitate applications of codes. Protocol is fitting, albeit not perfectly so, as this addresses no substantive bankruptcy matters, only procedure. Act would have been appropriate, but dull. Procedure would have been too on-the-nose. Rules would have been misleading. Pact or Compact is right out. I think Protocol was my best bet.

"Again, it is simply my opinion on the topic. I feel as if you are trying to either infringe on my opinion, or influence it. I regard that as rudeness."

"Far be it from me, ambassador, to infringe on your right to be wrong."

[Untecna]

"Again, it is simply my opinion on the topic. I feel as if you are trying to either infringe on my opinion, or influence it. I regard that as rudeness."

"Far be it from me, ambassador, to infringe on your right to be wrong."

"Far be it from ME, Ambassador, to not be able to have my opinions."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Far be it from me, ambassador, to infringe on your right to be wrong."

"Far be it from ME, Ambassador, to not be able to have my opinions."

"I think the idiom's nuance has escaped you. Nonetheless, while you are welcome to hold an opinion, I will endeavor to give it no more than what it is due based on the General Assembly's practical limitations and my hard-earned experience in the political circus that is the General Assembly. At this point, it has received far more attention that it merited, but that is my failing, not yours.

"Welcome to the General Assembly, ambassador. May your future foreys into the Snakepit end more auspiciously than this one has."

[JC Cavs]

I think this is a well thought-out plan and I fully support this. By establishing an international bankruptcy protocol, nations are held to the same standards and can come together to support one another.

[Refuge Isle]

International Bankruptcy Protocol was passed 12,326 votes to 2,263.