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New Categories!!!!!

Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:13 am

In a world where players have been constrained to a scant Fifteen categories and Nineteen Areas of Effect, one team of dedicated coders sought to kick it up a notch...

Presenting the Regulation category, for all your regulatory needs!

The only real counterpart to Advancement of Industry has been Environmental, but that leaves a pretty narrow band of options. One can argue that the Social Justice category serves that purpose, but what about those laws that look to benefit the public as a whole, and not just the socially downtrodden? What if you believe in a regulatory state free of welfare? We got your back!
Regulation

Category Description: A resolution to enact uniform standards that protect workers, consumers, and the general public.


So, its Regulation, Mild, Significant, or Strong, right? Wrong!

Attached to Regulation comes a litany of new areas of effect, with the possibility for adding EVEN MORE!

Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Consumer Protection

Description: Increasing consumer rights, product standards, accurate labeling, and legal recourse for consumer David against the corporate Goliath.


Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Safety

Description: Enforce stringent regulations to keep the average bystander from physical harm.


Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Transportation

Description: Planes, trains, and automobiles! Create regulations to increase hull thickness, standardize trade route traffic, or protect shipping.


Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Labor Rights

Description: Protecting the workers from exploitation and dangerous conditions at the expense of corporate bottom lines.



Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Energy

Description: Bright ideas about power generation, transmission, and consumption belong here.


Category: Regulation | Area of Effect: Legal Reform

Description: Regulate the legal industry, public and private, for access to justice for all.


I think we all know where I'm gonna start, right folks?

On top of our Shiny New Category, we have a new improvement to an old category, Advancement of Industry!

Category: Advancement of Industry | Area of Effect: Commercial Enterprise

Description: The freer the market, the freer the people, right? By people, we mean corporations. This covers all the rights associated with commercial entities and the free market.


Commercial Enterprise is meant to fix a strange problem that Free Trade never quite addressed: You can have pro-business options that do not necessarily conform to free trade in that they don't lower international barriers to commerce. With Commercial Enterprise, you can spell out corporate rights and protections, maximize the right to freely contract, or otherwise promote business, even if it comes at the expense of international trade.

That's right, folks, you now have SIXTEEN categories with a grand total of TWENTY SIX different areas of effect to chose from! That's more categories and AoEs than you can count! Nearly!


We know that new categories create uncertainty moving forward, so please feel free to ask questions about or excessively praise or I guess criticize the new categories here.


Ok, so its one category and many AoEs, but nobody asked you. :p

EDIT UPDATE:

FYI a couple more category changes have occurred.

The 'Human rights' category has been renamed 'civil rights', and the Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated. The two existing proposals in drug use and gun control still retain their categories and if repealed will have the stat effects a repeal of that category normally would.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:46 am

This I can get onboard with. Nicely done, staff!
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Postby Erithaca » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:52 am

Finally! No more legality challenges!

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Postby Araraukar » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:57 am

Just a question, let's take the Energy AoE as an example: can you use the "regulation" category to write up something that would both help and hinder energy production (as in, allow you to do X but prohibit you to do Y), that might've been doable under Environment earlier? Like, say, regulating that you can dam rivers for hydroelectricity, but requiring you to have "salmon steps" or a detour channel so that the migrating fish can still get around it? That's something I would've pegged for Environmental, but it sounds like the Energy AoE of the new category would also fit.

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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:05 am

Woo! This is a nice change that allows for much modem freedom with economic proposals that now won’t have to write strange preambles to justify an odd category.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:15 am

Araraukar wrote:Just a question, let's take the Energy AoE as an example: can you use the "regulation" category to write up something that would both help and hinder energy production (as in, allow you to do X but prohibit you to do Y), that might've been doable under Environment earlier? Like, say, regulating that you can dam rivers for hydroelectricity, but requiring you to have "salmon steps" or a detour channel so that the migrating fish can still get around it? That's something I would've pegged for Environmental, but it sounds like the Energy AoE of the new category would also fit.

Erithaca wrote:Finally! No more legality challenges!

Keep wishing. :P

I hate to fo this, but...

It depends. Currently, GenSec has adopted a strict reading of category. Which one is appropriate depends on the proposal itself. It's possible, but absent text to check, almost anything is possible.

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Postby Araraukar » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:12 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:It's possible, but absent text to check, almost anything is possible.

I mainly meant that is this meant to spread things from Environmental into this new thing, as in, things that would've been restrictions on industry, would fit in here? Because your speech in the first post talks about Environmental as having been the only counterpart for Advancement of Industry (apart from maybe SJ).

Still, always nice to have new things. Now harass the admins into writing up Bookkeeping as a proper category and we're all set... :lol:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:38 pm

This all sounds pretty fun to me :)

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Postby Ransium » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:19 pm

A couple more changes have been made at GenSec's request:
  • The 'Human rights' category has been renamed 'civil rights', and;
  • Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated. The two existing proposals in drug use and gun control still retain their categories and if repealed will have the stat effects a repeal of that category normally would.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:23 pm

Ransium wrote:A couple more changes have been made at GenSec's request:
  • The 'Human rights' category has been renamed 'civil rights', and;
  • Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated. The two existing proposals in drug use and gun control still retain their categories and if repealed will have the stat effects a repeal of that category normally would.

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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:15 am

Ransium wrote:Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated.

Would resolutions in the new Civil Rights category incorporate resolutions that would have fitted into the above ex-categories?
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:31 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Ransium wrote:Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated.

Would resolutions in the new Civil Rights category incorporate resolutions that would have fitted into the above ex-categories?

Presuming that they're suitably worded, yes: That's certainly the intended category for them under this reform.
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Postby Old Hope » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:28 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Would resolutions in the new Civil Rights category incorporate resolutions that would have fitted into the above ex-categories?

Presuming that they're suitably worded, yes: That's certainly the intended category for them under this reform.

Well, that or Moral Decency.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:36 pm

All looks lovely. I look forward to seeing some new Resolutions based on these.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:40 am

Old Hope wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Presuming that they're suitably worded, yes: That's certainly the intended category for them under this reform.

Well, that or Moral Decency.

Oops! Yes, or that.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:07 am

Ransium wrote:A couple more changes have been made at GenSec's request:
    ...
  • Gun Control, Gambling, and Recreational Drug Use categories have all been eliminated. The two existing proposals in drug use and gun control still retain their categories and if repealed will have the stat effects a repeal of that category normally would.

Woohoo! :lol:
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:05 pm

The GA Proposal Rules thread needs to be updated with these changes and strong/mild in Environmental: All Businesses.

Last I bugged peeps about the mild/strong in All Businesses, some GenSec peeps said they'd send up a flare. Is that going to have any effect or should I just post in Moderation? I don't know what the procedure is.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:32 am

Araraukar wrote:The GA Proposal Rules thread needs to be updated with these changes and strong/mild in Environmental: All Businesses.

Last I bugged peeps about the mild/strong in All Businesses, some GenSec peeps said they'd send up a flare. Is that going to have any effect or should I just post in Moderation? I don't know what the procedure is.

Our procedure is in effect. Posting in moderstion would only duplicate efforts.

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:15 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:Our procedure is in effect. Posting in moderstion would only duplicate efforts.

Ok. It's just that the Environmental AoE hasn't been changed yet either and it's been a while. :P
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Postby Ransium » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:52 am

Can GenSec not edit it themselves? Do I need to do something?

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:33 pm

Ransium wrote:Can GenSec not edit it themselves? Do I need to do something?

I thought somebody sent a flare up in the Sekrit Lair like we generally do. We don't have the power to edit the GA Rules.

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Postby Ransium » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:40 pm

Alright, I’ll do so in the next few days unless someone else beats me to it.
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Postby El Fiji Grande » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:13 pm

Fantastic! Great work!
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