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Postby Iwassoclose » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:09 am

I knew the US government spent the most on healthcare (twice as much as the next country) in the world out of an info graph I saw a while back but what astounds me is that everyone has to then pay monthly on insurance to cover health care expenses and depending on the insurance it wont even cover the full medical bill. Americans on the board, what is your situation regarding your healthcare? Also on a broader topic how do you move on to a universal system or do you even want to?

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:22 am

All I know is I pay over 500 dollars a month to get literally jack shit out of my health insurance
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:26 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:All I know is I pay over 500 dollars a month to get literally jack shit out of my health insurance

same

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:45 am

Insurance is crap and we definitely need a whole new system. The current set up has too many layers of bureaucracy that enable price gouging and the cost gets passed on through insurance premiums.

I pay $50-something a month union dues and sometimes $5 or $15 copay at doctor's visits, but I'm at a job where the health plan is one of the best things about it. Some people are getting screwed over paying much more.
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:46 am

USS Monitor wrote:Insurance is crap and we definitely need a whole new system. The current set up has too many layers of bureaucracy that enable price gouging and the cost gets passed on through insurance premiums.

I pay $50-something a month union dues and sometimes $5 or $15 copay at doctor's visits, but I'm at a job where the health plan is one of the best things about it. Some people are getting screwed over paying much more.

I honestly think that single-payer universal healthcare is the best option for the United States.

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Postby Olthar » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:50 am

What healthcare? I haven't set foot in a hospital in years, far too expensive. Healthcare is a luxury for the rich.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:55 am

I'm unemployed with no income, so I'm uninsured. Things that people would get treated, I have to ignore. Dying an early death is a risk I'm willing to take. Nothing ever happens anyways, because I'm still relatively young and without problems.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:59 am

Saiwania wrote:I'm unemployed with no income, so I'm uninsured. Things that people would get treated, I have to ignore. Dying an early death is a risk I'm willing to take. Nothing ever happens anyways, because I'm still relatively young and without problems.

Yeah I remember growing up you only saw a doctor if it was literally charity
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Postby Iwassoclose » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:27 am

Olthar wrote:What healthcare? I haven't set foot in a hospital in years, far too expensive. Healthcare is a luxury for the rich.

Saiwania wrote:I'm unemployed with no income, so I'm uninsured. Things that people would get treated, I have to ignore. Dying an early death is a risk I'm willing to take. Nothing ever happens anyways, because I'm still relatively young and without problems.


how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going

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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:29 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Olthar wrote:What healthcare? I haven't set foot in a hospital in years, far too expensive. Healthcare is a luxury for the rich.

Saiwania wrote:I'm unemployed with no income, so I'm uninsured. Things that people would get treated, I have to ignore. Dying an early death is a risk I'm willing to take. Nothing ever happens anyways, because I'm still relatively young and without problems.


how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going

I'll let you guess. Seriously, guess!

HINT: THEY KEEP IT ALL.

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Postby Iwassoclose » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:31 am

Shiba News wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:

how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going

I'll let you guess. Seriously, guess!

HINT: THEY KEEP IT ALL.


who is they? hospitals?

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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:33 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Shiba News wrote:I'll let you guess. Seriously, guess!

HINT: THEY KEEP IT ALL.


who is they? hospitals?

The government. All the money goes into their pockets.

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Postby Iwassoclose » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:35 am

Shiba News wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
who is they? hospitals?

The government. All the money goes into their pockets.


what does that even mean

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Postby Olthar » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:36 am

Iwassoclose wrote:how does this even work

It doesn't.
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:38 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Shiba News wrote:The government. All the money goes into their pockets.


what does that even mean

The government takes taxes. Some of it goes to the Fed. Most of it goes directly into the personal bank accounts of Congress.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:40 am

We have the NHS here. I hardly ever use it, but it has come in handy every so often. I can't imagine not having it.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:41 am

Shiba News wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
what does that even mean

The government takes taxes. Some of it goes to the Fed. Most of it goes directly into the personal bank accounts of Congress.

That's not entirely true. Much of it also goes into the pockets of hospital owners.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:42 am

The New California Republic wrote:We have the NHS here. I hardly ever use it, but it has come in handy every so often. I can't imagine not having it.

Great Britain, where you can get shot, and only bleed your blood, not money.
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:42 am

Olthar wrote:
Shiba News wrote:The government takes taxes. Some of it goes to the Fed. Most of it goes directly into the personal bank accounts of Congress.

That's not entirely true. Much of it also goes into the pockets of hospital owners.

Well, it feels like it alright.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:43 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Olthar wrote:What healthcare? I haven't set foot in a hospital in years, far too expensive. Healthcare is a luxury for the rich.

Saiwania wrote:I'm unemployed with no income, so I'm uninsured. Things that people would get treated, I have to ignore. Dying an early death is a risk I'm willing to take. Nothing ever happens anyways, because I'm still relatively young and without problems.


how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going


Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:44 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:

how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going


Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.

I saw one episode in Untold Stories of the ER where this one guy was skydiving or something and he got a fence rod stuck through his chest. I think that counts as "ok we'll help you now".

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:46 am

Shiba News wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.

I saw one episode in Untold Stories of the ER where this one guy was skydiving or something and he got a fence rod stuck through his chest. I think that counts as "ok we'll help you now".


Ouch, dude. :shock:
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:47 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:

how does this even work, where is all the money the government is spending going


Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.

Often caused because they prolonged the issue that they should have treated with a doctor's visit earlier, and the problem multiplied.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:49 am

USS Monitor wrote:Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.

Foregoing care is just awful. It turns easily curable diseases into chronic ones. I get that people can't afford it, but it is still awful.
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Postby Shiba News » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Emergency room visits when people get so sick/injured that forgoing care is no longer possible.

Foregoing care is just awful. It turns easily curable diseases into chronic ones. I get that people can't afford it, but it is still awful.

i hate my country's healthcare system so much

we need single-payer universal healthcare

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