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Fartsniffage
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England to assume consent for organ donation

Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:45 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45056780

A new opt-out system for organ donation will be in place by 2020 in England, if Parliament approves "Max's Law".

Under the plans detailed by ministers, adults will be presumed to be organ donors unless they have specifically recorded their decision not to be.

The government said it would save up to 700 lives each year.

In the UK in 2017, 411 people died before the right donor was found, and more than 5,000 people are currently on the waiting list in England.

A similar opt-out system has been in place in Wales since 2015. Scotland plans to introduce a similar scheme and Northern Ireland has also expressed an interest.


I'm honestly amazed it's taken this long for this to become a thing in England. Dead people don't need organs and if they have an issue with donating they can make it clear before they die.

What say you NSG?

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Postby Khataiy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:47 pm

stupid
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:48 pm

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:48 pm

Khataiy wrote:stupid

How?
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:51 pm

As long as there is a way to opt out for people that want to, this seems fine.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:AlHamdulillah.


What?

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:52 pm

On the surface this seems fine, I guess.

Not sure if it crosses any lines though.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:53 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:AlHamdulillah.


What?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:54 pm

Salus Maior wrote:On the surface this seems fine, I guess.

Not sure if it crosses any lines though.


Scotland and Wales have been doing it for a while. The world hasn't ended.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:55 pm

I assume that there are checks for diseases and the such?
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:55 pm

So long as it's well-publicised and there's still an opt-out option, I don't see the issue here.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:56 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:On the surface this seems fine, I guess.

Not sure if it crosses any lines though.


Scotland and Wales have been doing it for a while. The world hasn't ended.


Well, for the time being I can't really find any fault with it.

So, good.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:56 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I assume that there are checks for diseases and the such?


Same as now. Just an assumption of consent.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:59 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I assume that there are checks for diseases and the such?


Same as now. Just an assumption of consent.

I don't really have an issue with this so long as the government makes it easy to opt out. I would think a well advertised website allowing you to do so would be sufficient.
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Postby Khataiy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:59 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Khataiy wrote:stupid

How?

It's just dumb
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:00 pm

Khataiy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:How?

It's just dumb

How is it dumb?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:01 pm

Khataiy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:How?

It's just dumb


I hope you or your family never need a heart.

But you seem to be doing okay without one just now.
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Postby MLGDogeland » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:04 pm

Khataiy wrote:stupid


How is this stupid?

Please provide better reasoning than just "stupid"

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:09 pm

This is good and everywhere should do this.


Neutraligon wrote:I assume that there are checks for diseases and the such?

Rejected organs will be used to replace the horse meat in beef lasagne.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:12 pm

Ifreann wrote:This is good and everywhere should do this.


Neutraligon wrote:I assume that there are checks for diseases and the such?

Rejected organs will be used to replace the horse meat in beef lasagne.


We have to get something in place to deal with the food shortages after Brexit....

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Postby The Sakhalinsk Empire » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Khataiy wrote:It's just dumb


I hope you or your family never need a heart.

But you seem to be doing okay without one just now.

Ummm... you're on the edge of being reported. I suggest you calm down.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This is good and everywhere should do this.



Rejected organs will be used to replace the horse meat in beef lasagne.


We have to get something in place to deal with the food shortages after Brexit....

And this will free up horses to run in circles for the entertainment of the Queen.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:15 pm

The Sakhalinsk Empire wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I hope you or your family never need a heart.

But you seem to be doing okay without one just now.

Ummm... you're on the edge of being reported. I suggest you calm down.


Don't use mods as weapons. You can suggest he calm down without the threat.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:16 pm

The Sakhalinsk Empire wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I hope you or your family never need a heart.

But you seem to be doing okay without one just now.

Ummm... you're on the edge of being reported. I suggest you calm down.


I will take that risk. Thank you.

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Postby MLGDogeland » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:23 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Sakhalinsk Empire wrote:Ummm... you're on the edge of being reported. I suggest you calm down.


I will take that risk. Thank you.


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