by Scottish Socialists » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:04 pm
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by The Marsupial Illuminati » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:06 pm
Scottish Socialists wrote:The rivers of @@NAME@@ are overflowing with shrimp.
Chan Island wrote:However, I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle: instead of from a culinary angle, this really must be looked at from a environmental angle.
by Chan Island » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:08 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:41 am
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:24 am
Chan Island wrote:It was not a bad idea when you put it in the writer's block. However, I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle: instead of from a culinary angle, this really must be looked at from a environmental angle. An overpopulation of crustaceans- or anything else from that matter- might well herald a disaster, in this case, for the rivers of @@NAME@@.
So I would rewrite the issue to look like this: the rivers are overpopulated with shrimp. Needless to say, this might be an ecological disaster.
option 1: Keep the same. I love it!
option 2: look into industrial strategy and review. Some chemical that helps the shrimp must be being pumped into the rivers to make their populations explode.
option 3: Keep the shrimp, though I'd tweak the option to be about general ecological non-interventention or something.
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by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:25 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I was going to make some comments, but Chan Island basically covered my exact points.
Only thing to add is that I'd personally title it Mission: Shrimpossible.
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by Zyris » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:30 am
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:38 am
Zyris wrote:The introduction of an evasive species could solve that problem for added options.
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by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:40 am
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by Chan Island » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:55 am
Zyris wrote:The introduction of an evasive species could solve that problem for added options.
Scottish Socialists wrote:Chan Island wrote:It was not a bad idea when you put it in the writer's block. However, I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle: instead of from a culinary angle, this really must be looked at from a environmental angle. An overpopulation of crustaceans- or anything else from that matter- might well herald a disaster, in this case, for the rivers of @@NAME@@.
So I would rewrite the issue to look like this: the rivers are overpopulated with shrimp. Needless to say, this might be an ecological disaster.
option 1: Keep the same. I love it!
option 2: look into industrial strategy and review. Some chemical that helps the shrimp must be being pumped into the rivers to make their populations explode.
option 3: Keep the shrimp, though I'd tweak the option to be about general ecological non-interventention or something.
I mean, I did have this idea after being at Bubba Gump shrimp.
So, yeah.
I’ll change it.
But, I’ll take your ideas on board!
Should the description be changed? Or...
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:58 am
Chan Island wrote:Zyris wrote:The introduction of an evasive species could solve that problem for added options.
Too bad we already have an issue about an invasive species.Scottish Socialists wrote:I mean, I did have this idea after being at Bubba Gump shrimp.
So, yeah.
I’ll change it.
But, I’ll take your ideas on board!
Should the description be changed? Or...
lol
In seriousness though, I think the description does need to be changed. It needs to describe a plausible reason or scenario that might create the problem of shrimp overpopulation. Spitballing, the idea of a type of a nutrient-rick industrial run-off is by far the most plausible. In real life, there have frequently been cases when some chemical in the water encourages some species (usually plant) to overpopulate. The other idea that came up was to discuss a shrimp version of the Marbled Crayfish.
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by Chan Island » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:04 am
Scottish Socialists wrote:Chan Island wrote:
Too bad we already have an issue about an invasive species.
lol
In seriousness though, I think the description does need to be changed. It needs to describe a plausible reason or scenario that might create the problem of shrimp overpopulation. Spitballing, the idea of a type of a nutrient-rick industrial run-off is by far the most plausible. In real life, there have frequently been cases when some chemical in the water encourages some species (usually plant) to overpopulate. The other idea that came up was to discuss a shrimp version of the Marbled Crayfish.
That idea shall be taken on board to make the description more plausible.
Are the actual options better or do they need to be changed more?
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:10 am
Chan Island wrote:Scottish Socialists wrote:That idea shall be taken on board to make the description more plausible.
Are the actual options better or do they need to be changed more?
In my view, it is a vital imperative that option 1 remains the same, because it is hilarious (except maybe add a little sneaky reference of 'stick 'em in a stew').
Option 2 is passable, but I do feel like there is something missing. I can't put my finger on it yet, but now you know. If you have that same sense, maybe you can rework it. The effect line is great though so keep that in whatever pro-shrimp option you make.
Option 3 obviously has to go. I'd replace it with an option discussing the dangers of industrial or agricultural (since, I have just remembered, it is usually agricultural products that create unnatural abundances of creatures) practices and the need to thoroughly investigate what is causing this.
EDIT: A group of scientists are unlikely to be dumping that many chemicals. I'd have it be that a spate of new farms were established on the river, say, 5 years ago, and now all of the fertiliser or something has caused this shrimp explosion.
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by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:33 am
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by Bears Armed » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:27 am
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:35 am
Bears Armed wrote:Maybe local farmers have been using synthetic hormones to boost the growth of their livestock, and now that these substances have got into the water they're having unexpected effects on the shrimp?
Shrimpzilla!
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by Frieden-und Freudenland » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:58 am
Scottish Socialists wrote:[Title]Mission: Shrimpossible
[Description] The rivers of @@NAME@@ are overflowing with shrimp, due to some hormones used by farmers. Your culinary advisor has come into your office to discuss what to do with them.
[Option 1] "Think of all the things we could do with the shrimp!” proclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, your culinary advisor. “Shrimp can be used in many ways! You can boil them, fry them, marinade them, cover them in coconut, and much more!” @@HE@@ salivates as @@HE@@ pulls out a chart. “According to these calculations, we can boost the economy and feed our populace if we use the shrimp for food! So, what do you say? Eat em’ or leave em’?”
[Effect] The formerly bustling shrimp population has literally been eaten up.
[Option 2] "No! You can’t do that!” shouts @@NAME@@ Crustacean Lovers Association founder @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ bursts through your door. “Shrimp are our friends! They must be left alone to breed! Otherwise, they will all die!” @@HE@@ takes a deep breath. “Look, why don’t we just leave them alone! It’s not like it’ll cause an ecological disaster or anything!”
[Effect] @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ can barely drink with the amount of shrimp coming from their sink.
[Option 3] "You know, this problem would never have happened if we had better regulations on the stuff used by farmers!” pipes in your advisor, who has been by your side the whole time.
“@@LEADER@@, do you not remember how a group of farmers set up farms at the riverside? Well, those farmers have used hormones to make the animals breed more, and over the last couple of years, those hormones and all their effects have seeped into the river, just for the shrimp to enjoy! This shows us that farming regulations must be completely overhauled!”
[Effect] The farming regulations have been completely changed due to a spike in shrimp population.
by Hediacrana » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:03 am
Bears Armed wrote:Shrimpzilla!
by Frieden-und Freudenland » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:05 am
Hediacrana wrote:Bears Armed wrote:Shrimpzilla!
I actually like the idea of the word Shrimpzilla being included. Perhaps, as an additional option, some deranged scientist suggests to see how big the shrimp can get by intentionally adding more of this hormone? As an incentive (apart from 'for science!') the giant shrimp could be a tourist attraction.
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:06 am
Hediacrana wrote:Bears Armed wrote:Shrimpzilla!
I actually like the idea of the word Shrimpzilla being included. Perhaps, as an additional option, some deranged scientist suggests to see how big the shrimp can get by intentionally adding more of this hormone? As an incentive (apart from 'for science!') the giant shrimp could be a tourist attraction.
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by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:09 am
Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Scottish Socialists wrote:[Title]Mission: Shrimpossible
[Description] The rivers of @@NAME@@ are overflowing with shrimp, due to some hormones used by farmers. Your culinary advisor has come into your office to discuss what to do with them.
[Option 1] "Think of all the things we could do with the shrimp!” proclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, your culinary advisor. “Shrimp can be used in many ways! You can boil them, fry them, marinade them, cover them in coconut, and much more!” @@HE@@ salivates as @@HE@@ pulls out a chart. “According to these calculations, we can boost the economy and feed our populace if we use the shrimp for food! So, what do you say? Eat em’ or leave em’?”
[Effect] The formerly bustling shrimp population has literally been eaten up.
Also, I think the speaker shouldn't ask "Eat em’ or leave em’?" - this is not a binary choice. This speaker wants @@LEADER@@ to decide for eating.
Smart quotes should be replaced with straight quotes: ", not ”. -> This applies to the whole issue
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by Altmer Dominion » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:16 am
Scottish Socialists wrote:Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:
Also, I think the speaker shouldn't ask "Eat em’ or leave em’?" - this is not a binary choice. This speaker wants @@LEADER@@ to decide for eating.
Smart quotes should be replaced with straight quotes: ", not ”. -> This applies to the whole issue
Sorry, I don’t understand.
Not in a bad way, I just don’t know what “binary choice” or “straight quotes” mean.
by Scottish Socialists » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:17 am
Altmer Dominion wrote:Scottish Socialists wrote:Sorry, I don’t understand.
Not in a bad way, I just don’t know what “binary choice” or “straight quotes” mean.
FuF should probably clarify the first point ('@@LEADER@@ to decide for eating' threw me), but I can answer the second point.
Straight quotes look like " " (they literally look straight), while smart quotes look like “” (much curvier). Microsoft Word tends to default to smart quotes, while published issues NS uses straight quotes. It's a formatting matter, so you'll want to replace the curvy-looking quotes with straight-looking quotes in your draft.
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