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Jocospor
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The Flaws of the World Assembly

Postby Jocospor » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:24 am

The following was authorised and telegrammed by the Delegate's Office of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, addressing concerns about the current climate of the World Assembly:

To the Delegates of the World Assembly.

We're NOT writing to you now to encourage you to vote. We're writing to you to tell you truth.

So, where do we start? Well, how about we use the current resolution at vote in the General Assembly, Repeal GAR#408 A Ban on Secret Treaties, as stimulus.

Funnily enough, if you were to remove the votes cast by Delegate Siwale (1,179) and Delegate Erinor (605) then (at the time of this telegram's writing) the FOR vote would be well ahead.

Do you think it's fair that two nations command just under 1,800 votes between them? "But they've been endorsed! We trust them!" Well, that's true...except for the fact that nations who've endorsed a delegate can also vote.

It's interesting, when you think about it, that nations who elect to have another nation represent them are still able to represent themselves.

And let's not forget the corruption spread throughout the World Assembly (and trust us, we can smell corruption, hailing from our particular Confederation). We all know Delegate Imperium Anglorum has authored a plethora of resolutions. The block alliance he has created ensures that his faction's monopoly over the World Assembly will continue unchecked. Anecdotally, he sent out a telegram to his region instructing all WA nations to vote against our repeal proposal after we supposedly made plans to invade Europe. Which...we didn't. Case in point.

What's more, the General Assembly Secretariats have failed in their duties. You can read more about that particular mishap here. The Imperial Empire is calling for the Secretariats to explain themselves, and for there to be consequences.

If our proposal is defeated, we intend to resubmit it, with new evidence having come to light.

We truly believe the World Assembly's days are numbered, if issues within its dimly-lit corridors are not addressed.

This telegram will also form the basis of a forum thread entitled "Flaws of the World Assembly", where the discussion can be continued.

Make no mistake: the first part of this is not an attack on Delegate power. It's merely stating something that should, well, be stated.

Towards a new World Assembly.

Hail the Confederation!

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Democratic Empire of Romania
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Postby Democratic Empire of Romania » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:47 am

From this moment, you have sworn allegiance to His Supreme Majesty the Emperor, his Imperial Empire and his primary objective: the destruction of democracy throughout NationStates.

To ensure the Emperor's designs, each nation must take these measures:

World Assembly nations: the international body is failing. Endorse the Imperial Empire so that provisions can be made to usurp the World Assembly and pass legislation that benefits the Confederation
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Jocospor
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Postby Jocospor » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 am

Democratic Empire of Romania wrote:From this moment, you have sworn allegiance to His Supreme Majesty the Emperor, his Imperial Empire and his primary objective: the destruction of democracy throughout NationStates.

To ensure the Emperor's designs, each nation must take these measures:

World Assembly nations: the international body is failing. Endorse the Imperial Empire so that provisions can be made to usurp the World Assembly and pass legislation that benefits the Confederation

A truer sentiment has not been spoken.

Regardless, such is IRRELEVANT to this discussion. We are raising our legitimate concerns with the WA, and those concerns transcend political doctrine and are not region-orientated.

But many thanks for promoting our agenda, we truly appreciate it.
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JOCOSPOR | FOREIGN AFFAIRS OFFICE


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Gruenberg
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Postby Gruenberg » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:07 am

This argument has been made countless times and the admins have never shown any inclination to change the voting mechanic.
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Ryanese
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Postby Ryanese » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:35 am

If you feel like helping the WA by dismantling its over abundance of resolutions, you could always join Doanese which is dedicated to this cause. I know it is not what Jocospor is going for, but it is our way of helping.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:01 am

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Flaws of the World Assembly: (1) People who submit proposals without first posting the drafts in this forum for long enough to get feedback from experienced players...
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:22 pm

Bears Armed wrote:OOC
Flaws of the World Assembly: (1) People who submit proposals without first posting the drafts in this forum for long enough to get feedback from experienced players...

adding to this:
2) Players who submit illegal proposals without posting here first, then demand the rules and programming be changed to suit them.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:45 pm

Jocospor wrote:We all know Delegate Imperium Anglorum has authored a plethora of resolutions. The block alliance he has created ensures that his faction's monopoly over the World Assembly will continue unchecked.

Considering IA didn't create WALL, I'd suggest you do some research
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:58 pm

All OOC:
Jocospor wrote:The following was authorised and telegrammed by the Delegate's Office of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, addressing concerns about the current climate of the World Assembly:

To the Delegates of the World Assembly.

We're NOT writing to you now to encourage you to vote. We're writing to you to tell you truth.

So, where do we start? Well, how about we use the current resolution at vote in the General Assembly, Repeal GAR#408 A Ban on Secret Treaties, as stimulus.

Funnily enough, if you were to remove the votes cast by Delegate Siwale (1,179) and Delegate Erinor (605) then (at the time of this telegram's writing) the FOR vote would be well ahead.

Do you think it's fair that two nations command just under 1,800 votes between them? "But they've been endorsed! We trust them!" Well, that's true...except for the fact that nations who've endorsed a delegate can also vote.

It's interesting, when you think about it, that nations who elect to have another nation represent them are still able to represent themselves.

1) If you were to remove all the delegate votes on this resolution, it would still be losing handily.
2) If you are really that concerned with the current delegate system, take it to Technical, where it belongs and where so many similar complaints have expired as pointlessly as this one will.
And let's not forget the corruption spread throughout the World Assembly (and trust us, we can smell corruption, hailing from our particular Confederation). We all know Delegate Imperium Anglorum has authored a plethora of resolutions. The block alliance he has created ensures that his faction's monopoly over the World Assembly will continue unchecked. Anecdotally, he sent out a telegram to his region instructing all WA nations to vote against our repeal proposal after we supposedly made plans to invade Europe. Which...we didn't. Case in point.

Yes, regions send out IFVs. It's a fairly regular practice for the WA ministries of big regions to recommend their members vote one way or another.
What's more, the General Assembly Secretariats have failed in their duties. You can read more about that particular mishap here. The Imperial Empire is calling for the Secretariats to explain themselves, and for there to be consequences.

GenSec has issued their formal ruling. You are free to read their explanation there. They have not failed in their duties, they are cleaning up a minor mess.
If our proposal is defeated, we intend to resubmit it, with new evidence having come to light.

And I imagine it will be marked illegal much sooner next time.
We truly believe the World Assembly's days are numbered, if issues within its dimly-lit corridors are not addressed.

1) The WA has been here longer than you, and I imagine it will continue well past when you CTE.
2) The WAHQ is dimly-lit in order to save on the electric bill.
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Postby Ransium » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:26 pm

This should either go in technical OOC or go in the drafting thread for the resolution at vote. This thread is locked.

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