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Oppermenian Civil War (OOC)

Postby Oppermenia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:06 am

Almost a year ago, the state of Steinbaach seceded from the United Socialist States of Oppermenia. This was because of many authoritarian, almost oppressive actions Oppermenia's government took. With gun control, forcing criminals on death row to fight to the death and televising it, and other actions regarding both domestic and international policies, Steinbaach felt it had gone too far. Outlawing capitalism and installing Socialism as a national policy was the last straw.

Steinbaach maintains that the government is too tyrannical and oppressive, and they've gone too far in the past, and will continue to do so. So, as a result, Steinbaach seceded from the Union and declared war on the Oppermenian Federal Government. A Libertarian country, they hope to win the war and become their own country, built off of Libertarian, Capitalist, Democratic values. It's being led by the Libertarian Governor of Steinbaach, Michael Stein (ironically enough, cousin to the leader of Oppermenia). This will be particularly interesting, since Steinbaach holds one of the largest military defense strongholds in Oppermenia, so it could give them an incalculable advantage.

Oppermenia maintains that Steinbaach is being arrogant by seceding from the Union, and that any conflict started can be solved and ended through simple negotiations. Oppermenia doesn't want to fight this war, nor see one of their oldest member states leave. Yes, they were once authoritarian and tyrannical. However, they've taken less oppressive policies more recently. After Socialism was installed, they also installed vigorous welfare. They also made marriage equality the law of the land, even giving citizens the right to multiple spouses. They increased political freedoms by giving citizens the right to vote on more things, and further increased civil rights. They hold the position that they've changed, and there's no reason for Steinbaach to leave. They hope to work out whatever problems they may have, and keep Steinbaach home. It's being led by Mitchell Opperman, the country's founder.

After almost a year, the civil war still rages on. It hasn't gotten hot yet, with little battles, and just negotiations. It's been at a constant stalemate. However, this will soon change. Steinbaach is looking for allies. And because of that, Oppermenia will need allies, too. So, join a side. Either Steinbaach, the Democratic Capitalist Libertarians; or Oppermenia, the Democratic Socialist Left-wingers. If Steinbaach wins, then they'll become their own country. If Oppermenia wins, then Steinbaach will stay. Or, will they? Who will win? Well, how about we find out?
This is the OOC thread, to settle OOC disputes about the RP itself. For the actual rp, go to the IC thread here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=445594
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
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Postby Oost Prussen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 pm

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Royal Decree

We are the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, a copy of the letter notifying the Ministry of Defense, the Queen and the People we declare war against Oppermenia, the declaration of war was delivered because Oppermenia, violating human rights and authoritarian rule.

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Minister of Foreign Affairs

The Her Majesty

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Postby Oost Prussen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:07 pm

We send:
1. The 4th Royal Panzer Division (Der Jagdtiger)
2. The 1st Panzer Division of the Kingdom
3. The Royal 5th Army Corps
4. The 6th Division of the Marine Corps
5. 26th Royal Field Artillery Corps
6. The 10th Division of the Royal Health Corps
7. The 32nd Division of the Royal Engineers Corps

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Postby Oppermenia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:11 pm

Please post that in the IC thread.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Jebslund » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:45 am

Is Steinbaach going to want Jebslunden officials at the negotiations or not?

Also, Stok, what tech level are you?
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.

Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats except in the Kerbin roleplay, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
Plural Sapient: Jebslunden
Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question (a plane spotting someone (only the pilot can do that), a brush styling hair (a person has to be using it), a general's orders (a rank cannot give orders. A person *holding* said rank, on the other hand, can), then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

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Postby Steinbaach » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:26 am

Jebslund wrote:Is Steinbaach going to want Jebslunden officials at the negotiations or not?

Also, Stok, what tech level are you?

Steinbaach will want Jebslunden officials at the meeting, since there were a lot of tensions between Jebslund and stoklomolvi

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Postby Stoklomolvi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:31 am

Jebslund wrote:Also, Stok, what tech level are you?

Whatever tech level you want me to be. Realistically, somewhere between MT+ and PMT (inclusive), scaled to whatever tech level is most prevalent?
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Postby Oppermenia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:42 pm

Stoklomolvi wrote:
Jebslund wrote:Also, Stok, what tech level are you?

Whatever tech level you want me to be. Realistically, somewhere between MT+ and PMT (inclusive), scaled to whatever tech level is most prevalent?

We should start peace negotiations on the IC thread maybe tomorrow.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Alenburg » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:33 pm

Oppermenia wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:Whatever tech level you want me to be. Realistically, somewhere between MT+ and PMT (inclusive), scaled to whatever tech level is most prevalent?

We should start peace negotiations on the IC thread maybe tomorrow.

Would the negotiations start at Alenburg? its logical considering that we are the first to offer and bid for hosting it

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Postby Oppermenia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:07 pm

Alenburg wrote:
Oppermenia wrote:We should start peace negotiations on the IC thread maybe tomorrow.

Would the negotiations start at Alenburg? its logical considering that we are the first to offer and bid for hosting it

We’re gonna have to figure that out with Stoklomolvi.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Stoklomolvi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:19 pm

Alenburg was not the first to offer. Nor am I, for that matter; technically, it was the Oppermenian government. If it were up to me, I'd attempt to wrangle both sides onto a Stoklomolvi carrier and host the meeting on the flight deck as both "neutral" ground and a form of political manoeuvring.
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Defensive Preparedness: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
Nuclear Launch Protocol: А | Б | В | Г | Д
Leader: Commissar Vladimir Mikhailovich Stuyonovich

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Postby Alenburg » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:15 pm

Stoklomolvi wrote:Alenburg was not the first to offer. Nor am I, for that matter; technically, it was the Oppermenian government. If it were up to me, I'd attempt to wrangle both sides onto a Stoklomolvi carrier and host the meeting on the flight deck as both "neutral" ground and a form of political manoeuvring.

I think my offer is better it se are going to talk about neutral Alenburg is the only of the countries who did not sent any kind of weapons,soldiers or militar y aid so i am offering my country and capital city to host the meeting but at the end Oppermenia has the last decisión

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Postby Oppermenia » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:33 pm

How about the peace meetings just take place in a ship in the Ocean, completely neutral and unaffiliated with any of the nations in any way involved.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Stoklomolvi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:19 pm

A ship in the ocean would still have to belong to someone. Who knows whom one can trust.
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Factbook -- LIAOINTERN -- Liaoism -- News Agency -- Commerce Comissariat -- Minyang
Defensive Preparedness: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
Nuclear Launch Protocol: А | Б | В | Г | Д
Leader: Commissar Vladimir Mikhailovich Stuyonovich

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Postby Oppermenia » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:07 pm

Stoklomolvi wrote:A ship in the ocean would still have to belong to someone. Who knows whom one can trust.

The meeting could take place in unclaimed lands
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Stoklomolvi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:34 pm

Generally speaking... no countries would hold conferences in untamed wilderness for innumerable reasons.
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Defensive Preparedness: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
Nuclear Launch Protocol: А | Б | В | Г | Д
Leader: Commissar Vladimir Mikhailovich Stuyonovich

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Postby Allanea » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:42 pm

Hm. I could support Steinbaach through two means:

1. Limited military deployment.

2. "Volunteers"/"militias"/"terrorists" that would deploy (ethnically they would not necessarily be Allaneans but OOC they'd be RPed by me) to aid Steinbaach.

The total deployment would be perhaps in the single-digit thousands.
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Postby Stoklomolvi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:49 pm

Depending on whether Jebslund resists or withdraws, I'd be setting up a military blockade of Steinbaach, so we'd be going head-to-head in direct conflict.
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Factbook -- LIAOINTERN -- Liaoism -- News Agency -- Commerce Comissariat -- Minyang
Defensive Preparedness: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
Nuclear Launch Protocol: А | Б | В | Г | Д
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Postby Jebslund » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:48 am

Due to real life issues, I'm pulling out of the thread.
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.

Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats except in the Kerbin roleplay, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
Plural Sapient: Jebslunden
Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question (a plane spotting someone (only the pilot can do that), a brush styling hair (a person has to be using it), a general's orders (a rank cannot give orders. A person *holding* said rank, on the other hand, can), then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

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Postby Oppermenia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:30 am

I guess, since Jebslund withdraws, we can just focus on diplomatic tensions.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Oppermenia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:55 pm

Let's hold the peace meetings on a ship owned by Stoklomolvi, and it can be in a neutral demilitarized zone.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437

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Postby Oppermenia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:26 pm

When are we going to do these peace talks?
Let’s just hold it in an area not controlled by any nation, but an internationally owned and controlling territory.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
To learn more about the nation, click here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook
To learn about our government structure, click here:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oppermenia/detail=factbook/id=1057437


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