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UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

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If a general election were held today who would you vote for?

Conservatives
35
16%
Labour
74
35%
Liberal Democrats
37
17%
Greens
9
4%
UKIP
34
16%
SNP
7
3%
Plaid Cymru
1
0%
Sinn Fein/SDLP
7
3%
DUP/UUP
2
1%
Other
7
3%
 
Total votes : 213

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UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:43 pm

The last one

Having proceeded to waste a 25+ point lead over the opposition and end up losing said majority, she has given the nation repeated assurances that she is "not owned, not owned" and stayed in power by negotiating a deal with the DUP, a party with "eccentric" views. This has lead to fun questions such as "does this violate the Good Friday Agreement", "did we just waste our first months of Brexit negotations on making our government even more unstable" and "did we seriously just pledge to spend £1.5bn pretty much entirely to prop up a government that couldn't get into power otherwise", all of which and more you will be able to discuss in the latest incarnation of the exciting UK Politics Thread. (For the record, my answers are "maybe", "yes" and "yes".))


Folks, welcome to a year later, where these questions still haven't been answered. We're currently contemplating how soon a united Ireland will be possible and the UK is still no closer to Brexit. Yet the strong and stable ship just keeps on chugging. Soft Brexit, hard Brexit, who cares? Brexit means Brexit. Every parliamentarian and their uncle seems to have their own vision for what this will look like, but most of their plans appear to fall under the assumption that the EU will graciously accept any deal they cook up, which seems unlikely.

But enough about that. Evictions! What would the Tories be without them, eh? Or cutthroat leadership challenges. Can't believe its two whole years ago since Gove and Johnson fucked up, maybe they'll try again. I've got so say, I'm impressed May has held on for so long, given all the fuckups.
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Corbyn on the other hand is looking more or less secure, if a bit uninteresting at present.I hope this means he'll nationalize the banks.

With that, have fun going round in the same circles the country has been going since last June, hopefully you'll figure it out someday.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:30 pm

How about a border that goes right the way around Ireland and back over Scotland?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:46 am

Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.


More like Statler and Waldorf.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:09 am

Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.

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Postby Philjia » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:36 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.

Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.
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Postby 0kay » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:39 am

Philjia wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.

Sturdy and substantial.

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:39 am

Philjia wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.

Not entirely feeble and only a little unbalanced.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:30 am

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Secure and steady.

Not entirely feeble and only a little unbalanced.

Fucking shit bags its not working
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:41 am

Olerand wrote:Uh... In a world where Norway exists. That some Brits are still delusional and believe Britain is about to become a European Singapore is... Well, delusional. But once everyone settles down, you'll be like Norway.

You provided those links yourself. Trust me, I'm not following this news, I couldn't care less.

Of course we all are, "market forces", also known as Goldman Sachs hacks, are fickle gods. But this is a sliding spectrum, and you're further on the wrong side than you would be if you weren't behaving like this.


Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Salandriagado wrote:
Olerand wrote:Uh... In a world where Norway exists. That some Brits are still delusional and believe Britain is about to become a European Singapore is... Well, delusional. But once everyone settles down, you'll be like Norway.

You provided those links yourself. Trust me, I'm not following this news, I couldn't care less.

Of course we all are, "market forces", also known as Goldman Sachs hacks, are fickle gods. But this is a sliding spectrum, and you're further on the wrong side than you would be if you weren't behaving like this.


Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.


You can buy all of Norway by selling Kensington.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:58 am

Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:12 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.


You can buy all of Norway by selling Kensington.


Or by selling the contents of the Hamble. But that's blatantly irrelevant, given that said money isn't accessible.
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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:17 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.


Israeli flags, Nazi Salutes, in support of a Neoliberal government, while singing The Internationale.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:23 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.


Israeli flags, Nazi Salutes, in support of a Neoliberal government, while singing The Internationale.

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Yeah the ones with the israeli flags are not singing the internationale ill tell you that much :p

Also they tend not to like the current government as they think tommy was arrested as part of a fucking conspiracy.

Two smoke bombs got thrown at one point, but other than that nothing much kicked off, just lots of yelling back and forth.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:30 am

This has got to be the whitest, most middle class demonstration Britain has seen

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I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.
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Dooom35796821595 wrote:I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.


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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:59 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

The last couple of weeks of amendment-related shenanigans in Parliament tell you all you need to know. The parties are niceties on the surface right now. Soft-Brexit/Parliamentary Sovereignty supporters from the Tories and Labour against Hard Brexit/Cabinet Sovereignty supporters from the Tories and Labour. Neither party leader is in anything approaching control of their lot.

Meanwhile, Brexit negotiations are slowly wrapping up, but who even cares anymore.
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I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

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Albennia wrote:

I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

Thats a French group though?
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Postby Albennia » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:55 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Albennia wrote:I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

Thats a French group though?

And that's an identitarian flag.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:03 pm

Albennia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Thats a French group though?

And that's an identitarian flag.

What does that have to do with Unité Radicale
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