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ABC gives "The Conners" the go ahead without Roseanne...

Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:18 pm

ABC gives "The Conners" the go ahead without Roseanne Barr's character.
In hoping to have their cake and eat it too, ABC will air a Roseanne-less version of her show called "The Conners."
Roseanne Barr's character will be eliminated from the show which means her absence will need to be explained by the writers. Ratings for that first show will be through the roof as anticipation of what means the show's writers choose to write her out.

I ask you NS, can we help them out with some fresh ideas?

How about this?

Her character's demise is caused by the fiery explosion of a secret basement meth lab (which would be later thought as unknown to Roseanne) while attending a late night party at a girlfriend's home. So she's a kind of victim of drug manufacturers ...or is this too much along the lines of Breaking Bad? Is an opioid overdose too touchy an issue to use to end her character?

There are plenty of scenarios which could be devised. Got one?
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 pm

Yea, I'd think that Roseanne would die from something less touchy. Like, an aortic aneurysm brought on by consistent anger and stress.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:36 pm

The South Falls wrote:Yea, I'd think that Roseanne would die from something less touchy. Like, an aortic aneurysm brought on by consistent anger and stress.

She saw one too many CNN fake news stories maybe? The stress straw that broke the camel's back. Ouch.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:19 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, I'd think that Roseanne would die from something less touchy. Like, an aortic aneurysm brought on by consistent anger and stress.

She saw one too many CNN fake news stories maybe? The stress straw that broke the camel's back. Ouch.

Pretty much. Fox news wasn't broadcasting. Those are her meds.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:24 pm

They retconned Dan's death in the season 9 finale to make a reboot this year, I wonder how the writers will fuck up their explanation of her disappearance. (Let me guess, heart attack?)
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:32 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:They retconned Dan's death in the season 9 finale to make a reboot this year, I wonder how the writers will fuck up their explanation of her disappearance. (Let me guess, heart attack?)

An alien abduction would be spiffy. Especially filmed with amateur special effects... oh please be this!
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:45 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:They retconned Dan's death in the season 9 finale to make a reboot this year, I wonder how the writers will fuck up their explanation of her disappearance. (Let me guess, heart attack?)

An alien abduction would be spiffy. Especially filmed with amateur special effects... oh please be this!

Doubt it, I would like for the show to give more attention to Darlene since she seemed to be the real star during the reboot, with Roseanne having her moments. They'll probably kill her off with what they tried with Dan, or they have her move in with her youngest son in Alaska. (They did mention this in the first episode of the reboot at the table how they had a young son who was fishing in the north I believe)
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:05 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:An alien abduction would be spiffy. Especially filmed with amateur special effects... oh please be this!

Doubt it, I would like for the show to give more attention to Darlene since she seemed to be the real star during the reboot, with Roseanne having her moments. They'll probably kill her off with what they tried with Dan, or they have her move in with her youngest son in Alaska. (They did mention this in the first episode of the reboot at the table how they had a young son who was fishing in the north I believe)


First thought, she could be elected governor there and not seem out of place. Your Alaska solution theoretically makes total sense but that's why they won't do it.
It's not outrageous or funny either, man. This is a comedy with an abnormally large opening night audience pumped up in anticipation. People want to laugh or be outraged.
They can't disappoint. The network just cares about ratings.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:17 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Doubt it, I would like for the show to give more attention to Darlene since she seemed to be the real star during the reboot, with Roseanne having her moments. They'll probably kill her off with what they tried with Dan, or they have her move in with her youngest son in Alaska. (They did mention this in the first episode of the reboot at the table how they had a young son who was fishing in the north I believe)


First thought, she could be elected governor there and not seem out of place. Your Alaska solution theoretically makes total sense but that's why they won't do it.
It's not outrageous or funny either, man. This is a comedy with an abnormally large opening night audience pumped up in anticipation. People want to laugh or be outraged.
They can't disappoint. The network just cares about ratings.

In Illinois, I doubt it.

Yes and some people also want some satisfactory conclusion to how they can get rid of the star of the show and retool it. Shows do it all the time, some of them work, other times they fall on their faces, and ABC should do the same and retool and rework it without Roseanne, funny or not, we need an explanation.

For the last month by officially cancelling it, and having every network pull any re-runs and marathons of it shows they care more about integrity than ratings differently.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:58 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
First thought, she could be elected governor there and not seem out of place. Your Alaska solution theoretically makes total sense but that's why they won't do it.
It's not outrageous or funny either, man. This is a comedy with an abnormally large opening night audience pumped up in anticipation. People want to laugh or be outraged.
They can't disappoint. The network just cares about ratings.

In Illinois, I doubt it.

Yes and some people also want some satisfactory conclusion to how they can get rid of the star of the show and retool it. Shows do it all the time, some of them work, other times they fall on their faces, and ABC should do the same and retool and rework it without Roseanne, funny or not, we need an explanation.

For the last month by officially cancelling it, and having every network pull any re-runs and marathons of it shows they care more about integrity than ratings differently.

Can't please all the people all the time, in the meantime they make money with ratings.
When it comes to the scripts, they want ratings points. When it comes to PR, they want their brand undamaged so they fired her and pulled ROSEANNE off the air. They had no choice in their decision pulling it off the air with the name of it and all. ROSEANNE.
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Postby Minoa » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:21 am

Jerzylvania wrote:Her character's demise is caused by the fiery explosion of a secret basement meth lab (which would be later thought as unknown to Roseanne) while attending a late night party at a girlfriend's home. So she's a kind of victim of drug manufacturers ...or is this too much along the lines of Breaking Bad? Is an opioid overdose too touchy an issue to use to end her character?

Does the demise of a character have to be that dramatic?

Maybe Roseanne Barr’s character, recognising her mistakes, could just move out of the area where The Conners is set, to start a new life off-screen.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:40 pm

Minoa wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Her character's demise is caused by the fiery explosion of a secret basement meth lab (which would be later thought as unknown to Roseanne) while attending a late night party at a girlfriend's home. So she's a kind of victim of drug manufacturers ...or is this too much along the lines of Breaking Bad? Is an opioid overdose too touchy an issue to use to end her character?

Does the demise of a character have to be that dramatic?

Maybe Roseanne Barr’s character, recognising her mistakes, could just move out of the area where The Conners is set, to start a new life off-screen.


Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:10 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Does the demise of a character have to be that dramatic?

Maybe Roseanne Barr’s character, recognising her mistakes, could just move out of the area where The Conners is set, to start a new life off-screen.


Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:25 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)

Maggie.

It was a rhetorical question, but have at it. :)
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)

Maggie.

Definitely Roseanne. Obviously.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:16 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Maggie.

Definitely Roseanne. Obviously.


Hey, if Maggie is still around why not have her finish off Roseanne on a trip to Dallas and then blame it all on JR's ghost? Maybe work in the School Book Depository for some extra pizzazz!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:07 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Maggie.

It was a rhetorical question, but have at it. :)

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:43 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:It was a rhetorical question, but have at it. :)

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I get it! Maggie Simpson plugs Roseanne ...while visiting Disneyland!
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Postby Minoa » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:17 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Does the demise of a character have to be that dramatic?

Maybe Roseanne Barr’s character, recognising her mistakes, could just move out of the area where The Conners is set, to start a new life off-screen.


Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)

Using death to retire a character, in my opinion, is a bit overused, tempting it may be. ;) Look at how they ended The Bill, where they decided that life at Sun Hill Police Station would go on off-screen.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:52 am

Minoa wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Recognizing mistakes is very 1970s show and not very Trumpian, either. She can't do THAT! :blink:

As far as dramatic, well isn't this some form of entertainment in 2018? Why lose all those millions of viewers for subsequent episodes by explaining Roseanne's exodus with some Mayberry RFD style blandness? You've heard if it bleeds it leads and that's not just for TV News programming. Something similar also works for ratings of these sorts of shows.

BTW, who shot JR? ;)

Using death to retire a character, in my opinion, is a bit overused, tempting it may be. ;) Look at how they ended The Bill, where they decided that life at Sun Hill Police Station would go on off-screen.


The Bill, eh? I honestly have never seen the program.
Okay, so Roseanne herself just goes off screen then. Hmm. Off screen to me just means off, with no real explanation as to why ...except with Roseanne Barr we do know why.
Well, something tells me that's an ending to the character which most of the folks that watch Roseanne might not actually enjoy as much as writers thinking up something. Even if it isn't morbid. :lol:
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Postby Minoa » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:55 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Using death to retire a character, in my opinion, is a bit overused, tempting it may be. ;) Look at how they ended The Bill, where they decided that life at Sun Hill Police Station would go on off-screen.


The Bill, eh? I honestly have never seen the program.
Okay, so Roseanne herself just goes off screen then. Hmm. Off screen to me just means off, with no real explanation as to why ...except with Roseanne Barr we do know why.
Well, something tells me that's an ending to the character which most of the folks that watch Roseanne might not actually enjoy as much as writers thinking up something. Even if it isn't morbid. :lol:

Sometimes it pays to think outside the box. :p
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:59 am

My money's on some sort of dream sequence.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:03 am

Minoa wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
The Bill, eh? I honestly have never seen the program.
Okay, so Roseanne herself just goes off screen then. Hmm. Off screen to me just means off, with no real explanation as to why ...except with Roseanne Barr we do know why.
Well, something tells me that's an ending to the character which most of the folks that watch Roseanne might not actually enjoy as much as writers thinking up something. Even if it isn't morbid. :lol:

Sometimes it pays to think outside the box. :p


Right, but its just not workable in this case. Without a death, you have to explain why the grandkids aren't seeing grandma, even if grandpa shows up. Their characters never divorced, so it can't be that, and you can't exactly say "surprise divorce that only lasted a week and ended with grandma being run out of town forever!"

Like, yeah, maybe a character's sudden death is a bit overused to explain why they're not in the show anymore, but there's a very good reason it sees as much use as it does. Its a nice way to tie up all the loose ends created by the actor's departure. Very few other ways of handling an actor departure have that property.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:06 am

Grenartia wrote:
Minoa wrote:Sometimes it pays to think outside the box. :p


Right, but its just not workable in this case. Without a death, you have to explain why the grandkids aren't seeing grandma, even if grandpa shows up. Their characters never divorced, so it can't be that, and you can't exactly say "surprise divorce that only lasted a week and ended with grandma being run out of town forever!"

Fox news took her for her dream job. Exactly.
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