The League & Concord | Consulate Appointments

[Angeloid Astraea]

The sanctions are not legal constraints nor limited to signing members of the MGC. For example, Lazarus committed to them in the WA sense after the invasion of the North. Prior to signing we were broadly supportive as well in a de facto sense, given our position on invader groups and individuals.

Oh... The sanctions aren't legally constraining. That explains why they haven't worked. Sanctions that aren't legally constraining are just suggestions. =P

[Bootyswana]

The sanctions are not legal constraints nor limited to signing members of the MGC. For example, Lazarus committed to them in the WA sense after the invasion of the North. Prior to signing we were broadly supportive as well in a de facto sense, given our position on invader groups and individuals.

Oh... The sanctions aren't legally constraining. That explains why they haven't worked. Sanctions that aren't legally constraining are just suggestions. =P

That’s not how sanctions work? If the sanctions weren’t legally constraining on a regional level they would be suggestions, but considering that this is on the interregional level it doesn’t work like that

[Thorn1000]

I look forward to them being as effective as they were when you were in the MGC

To me it's less about having them accomplish some vague efficiency quota and more about making it clear that if you are a hostile actor to our community, we won't support your rewards in the WA, or invite you into our server to play io games.

I’m confused, you’ve given all of the trophies we’ve gotten this year pretty medals and that feels pretty rewarding to me?

More effective than the team you have as your flag was yesterday

And yet, still more effective than the team that Quebec is flying was all year :^) . Just don’t mention the last 30 or even 60 some odd years to me

[Quebecshire]

The sanctions are not legal constraints nor limited to signing members of the MGC. For example, Lazarus committed to them in the WA sense after the invasion of the North. Prior to signing we were broadly supportive as well in a de facto sense, given our position on invader groups and individuals.

Oh... The sanctions aren't legally constraining. That explains why they haven't worked. Sanctions that aren't legally constraining are just suggestions. =P

The sanctions are a political commitment. They are not written in the text of the treaty. Hence, they can be adopted in various forms by regions not signed on to the treaty itself. This has always been the case.

And yet, still more effective than the team that Quebec is flying was all year :^) . Just don’t mention the last 30 or even 60 some odd years to me

Dawg we won so much they called us the Evil Empire. This isn’t the own you think it is. 17 division titles and 6 rings this century, 1 and 0 respectively for you guys.

[Angeloid Astraea]

Dawg we won so much they called us the Evil Empire. This isn’t the own you think it is. 17 division titles and 6 rings this century, 1 and 0 respectively for you guys.

There's no Tuck Rule to save you from losing to the Raiders of NS, though. >=]

[A Bloodred Moon]

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I recognise I’m a bit late to the party, but I’m curious as to TNP’s reasoning for reaching out or allowing the League to enter the MGC (it’s not entirely clear which one it is). On the surface, it makes some sense, they’re already in the alliance with Europeia (and let’s be honest, it can’t really get much worse than that), and talking to Quebec directly makes more sense than talking to him through his vassal. But upon further reflection, I’m a bit confused at that rationale.

I’m perhaps somewhat behind the times, and I recognise TNP has deemed relations with the League to be the lesser evil when it comes to their war with BoM, but under that rationale it would really only make sense to keep the League and their co-conspirators at arm’s length. Replacing TNP’s two staunchest allies over the past two years with a region that actively extorted them flies in the face of that. In fact, all it serves to do is give the League greater leverage to give it another try, not to mention it essentially traps TNP in a room without a friendly face in sight, only the regions that caused the extortion attempt to progress in the first place.

Among the bigger reasons Hulldom agreed to the terms dictated to him by HumanSanity and Quebecshire in April last year was his belief that Europeia and Balder would not come to TNP’s aid if he resisted, something Europeia then went and gave credibility to when they immediately betrayed their disregard for their new Aegis treaty obligations to try and pressure TNP into expelling MadJack from their government because he said something they didn’t like (and Euro, pray tell what MJ said - if it warranted revealing your deceit it must have been serious, and if it is it can really only help justify your deceit). You know, MadJack, whose Commend the extortion crew threatened if Hulldom reneged on their conditions. Europeia’s treachery was known to Hulldom even before they declared themselves openly defender, despite the MGC’s principles. Mentioning Balder as a separate entity feels like it’s treating them with a generosity they’re not entitled to at this point, but the same broad principle applies to them.

The League is, obviously, a bit of a different case - Quebec was HumanSanity’s most visible, prominent and active co-conspirator during that whole debacle. It is a bit hard to overstate his role in it, given he was actively pursuing it from its start to finish (and arguably was on board before HS even delivered their ultimatum). Whether he has been open about this with TNP I don’t know, and it’s not what I’m interested in - what I am interested in is figuring out how this move could possibly benefit TNP.

Multilateral treaties have their uses, but the MGC’s, and especially an MGC with the League in it, looks rather useless. When it was originally constructed it made sense, it was a way to form and consolidate a bloc of independent regions that were like-minded in their desire to be dictionary-i independent from the Defender vultures that circled them. It was to accomplish this without exposing the previously existing PPO to Europeia (wise). But the MGC’s purpose was lost as soon as Europeia did exactly what the MGC’s designers expected them to, and the NPO and TWP deserting it was realistically only an acknowledgement of its lack of purpose.

So what I'm confused about, really, is why the North Pacific would not simply cut their losses here. Leave the MGC for the failed venture it is, keep their allies in the PPO close and their extortion-happy "friends" at arm's length. If the criticism that Europeia and the League are presently attempting to level against the NPO is that it kept the MGC too slow and hesitant, I will acknowledge this will no longer be a concern - they will jump at TNP's throat as soon as they see an opening with frightening efficiency. They've all done it before, after all.

-Sidenote, congratulations to Europeia. I thought they had nothing they held any dedication to, but it seems continuing their streak of making any region forced to interact with them for an extended period of time utterly sick of them is the code they hold themselves to, with a lot more enthusiasm than they display adhering to treaty obligations, self-declared ideologies and regional sovereignty.

[Reventus Koth]

-Sidenote, congratulations to Europeia. I thought they had nothing they held any dedication to, but it seems continuing their streak of making any region forced to interact with them for an extended period of time utterly sick of them is the code they hold themselves to, with a lot more enthusiasm than they display adhering to treaty obligations, self-declared ideologies and regional sovereignty.

Unfortunate that it took the NPO and TWP until recently to understand what I've been saying for years, but sometimes you just have to see Euro's game with your own eyes to believe it.

At every turn, Europeia pushes to see how far it can go before its partners get fed up with the game Euro wants them to play.

[Quebecshire]

Address from the Consul

Continuing my public honesty splurge, there's an update I feel worth issuing.

From Trovons in November 2021 until Far East Oriental Federation, I didn't stop. I was at essentially every important update I physically could, whipping crossing, jumping, whatever it really took to win. I don't think it's unfair to say that a lot of the time I was the defender, both in public and in behind the scenes.

But this fall, I was just tired of a lot in defending. I led Solidarity which was some of the best fun and victory I've had on this game: my offensive magnum opus, it was overkill in every way, I built the best team I could for every aspect. I made it brutally successful as much as I could. Shortly after I was thrust into FEOF - in the library at 8:30am before the minor update we liberated it just doing everything I could to make sure we won. After this, though, I was scrambling with the NationStates work I do, combined with a feeling of discontent after being (by my perception obviously, but let's be real) snubbed at the Defender Awards, among some other things I had just felt unappreciated. I toyed with trying something new here and there, and I thought that after FEOF I was leaving things in a good place if I were to take a break (whoops). But, I'm also bad at quitting or taking any real time off. So I decided to do an infiltration without any real expectations for it. That way, I was doing something but still acting as essentially a noob in terms of R/D, so I was operating with substantially less burden (whoops again). Fearing Westinor may burn out if I disappeared, I informed her of my intent and path in this regard and went on my way.

I started off rather lucky, founding directly into Alcatraz which functionally makes me the last native of the region. That refound hurt, partly because of that, at least to me. From there I was quickly recruited into BoM itself, and I spent about 2.5 months in the organization. Spying, however, is obviously not my forte. I'm good at networking. I'm good at politics. I'm good at defending. What I am not good at is being someone else - I think even those who hate me on this site would view me as a player that tends to wear their beliefs on their sleeve. I used my time as Jessetopia as a break, but soon became disinterested.

Cubic — 12/02/2024 03:03
The infil... I don't know. They probably suspect me. But they haven't booted me so do I give up now? Do I trust tossing it even though there may be potential to recover on that front? But clearly defending itself is falling apart, and I worry about you, so maybe I need to come back to contribute on the home front? So first I need to decide if my path forward is as Quebecshire full time, or as the split Quebecshire/Jessetopia thing I've been doing.

Cubic — 23/01/2024 12:17
> what about the infil sucks?
I'm spending the majority of my NS time pretending to be a deliberately vapid/cringey person, in a community I dislike, and a community that dislikes me

Additionally, one thing that is just stuck with me as a concern is the maintenance of two identities. I'm not a freelancer like celebrity intel people such as Numero Capitan. I have two regions to run, so this was on my mind throughout. It's just not sustainable, and I think growing and maintaining TL&C is a lot more valuable than potential occupation leaks. There's things I intend to get back to fixing and improving on back home in the next few days, which have slipped somewhat in my split activity.

Cubic — 06/01/2024 00:55
This stuff aggravates me to hear about.
I will say, semi-relatedly, my biggest concern with doing this infil is the harm that may come to TL&C due to my focus being shifted.

With all of this in mind, I wanted an out. Frustrated all around, I made the post I made about the Wardens in their thread. Having enough difficulty figuring out what I wanted to do, I focused on something where I at least knew for sure how I felt. I wrestled with making the post or not for a bit, then flipped a coin on it and off I went. Unsurprisingly Tim messaged me about it later in the day, and we sparred for a bit on the matter, but I think we all know it's broadly correct (as did others who reached out to me about it). So, we reached a mutual agreement. He would pursue being First Warden again, and I would burn myself in response and we'd both see what we could make work. We decided to put on a silly show in the process where he calls me an armchair and I retort as Jesse. If you thought we were actually fighting then you're rather silly, sorry.

Defending is struggling - but not in every way. Defending does not start at 00:00 and end at 01:30. There are aspects surrounding our time on the field that are relevant to it, and our success on it. We have some great people and talent, and we have extremely solid political foundations - I like to think I've done a lot of good work in this regard, as have figures like HumanSanity and Grea Kriopia. I'm glad Tim finally spoke the truth about how she was treated last April. It was the right thing to do. But to the point, there are things we can work with. The showing in UEPU was admirable.

I end this post discussing two people... and by making two unilateral decisions, but ones I doubt Creeperopolis or Spode will take issue with.

First, Westinor. For every time you were unfairly mocked by bitter, bitter people, know there were ten times you were praised for the efforts you've put into keeping things together the last few months. Holding things together in that time is a herculean task, and you put your best foot forward every day throughout it. There's a bit of irony in that I told you about Jesse to keep you from burning out or feeling as though I was ditching you, but I think I needed someone to know and complain to more than you may have needed to know where I was.

For your contributions and character, the Order of Friendship and Harmony.

Second, Anjan Kloss/Kivu. There has been no stronger emulation of The League & Concord and its values of work ethic, community, and resilience. The LDF showing you and Makasta put on in UEPU without me deserves great praise, and I'm proud of the Concordian and defender you've become in just over a year on the site, and the best part is I know there is much more to come.

For that, the regions' highest honor, Consulate Citation.

As Tim said, it's 28-3. The thing about NationStates, though, is that there's no game clock to hit 00:00. You only lose when you've accepted the loss. My break, vacation, whatever we want to call it is over, and there's a lot of work to do, but it's not impossible. Down, but never out. I'll see you all at major tomorrow, and plenty in between. The continued success of our regions and the war against the invader is only lost when we let ourselves believe that it is.

Quebecshire / Fort Concord / Jessetopia

[Westinor]

:> I think the infil made you a bit soft! Jokes aside… I’m glad to see you back around and of course the reason we’re here is because of a coin toss.

I’ve despaired a lot in the past few months but I’ve known that there wasn’t any good reason so long as people like you and Tim, GK and HS, Kivu and Makasta are on the field. Well-deserved as all hell to Kivu, he’s done just as much if not more for the faction than I have. That’s the future right there :)

Last small thing. I’m glad I could have helped you in any way. It’s rather considerate of you to have been at all considering how I might be treated when I don’t really get anything super undeserved my way but. I really appreciate it <3

We’re down but never out. See you around :3

[Rosartemis]

:3 indeed

[Improper Classifications]

Jessetopia was a me level infiltration

[The North Polish Union]

Cubic — 23/01/2024 12:17
> what about the infil sucks?
I'm spending the majority of my NS time pretending to be a deliberately vapid/cringey person

This is on you for choosing a vapid persona. When I infiltrated Balder I decided to pose as Onder in my years-long infiltration that has to date been highly successful to the point that I am currently an RO.

[Quebecshire]

I’m glad to see you back around and of course the reason we’re here is because of a coin toss.

Don't think about it too much... I would've probably flipped it again if it was tails.

[Podria]

-snip-

Y'know this was a pretty nice post and decently enjoyable to read. I'm honestly glad to see you back in the saddle as a defender and I really hope your lot and my lot (which may I remind you is NSLeft and the wider inter-regional left, not any other R/D discipline or group) can remain peaceable and maybe not destroy each others' communities <3. Either way, kudos on your cheeky infiltration and good choice in giving such an award to Westinor.
See you at major, preferably not in the regions I am sworn to protect.

[Quebecshire]

✯ SULENIA PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT ✯

Effective immediately, Sulenia is promoted to Lieutentant.

As the premier defender organization, fostering and utilizing talent properly is one of our military's primary goals, second only to the involvement of civilian members in anti-invader efforts, which we re-popularized in 2021 during historic liberation pushes.

While the majority of our leadership is homegrown and we pride ourselves on the limitation of crossmembership in our organization, sometimes we pick up interest from pre-established figures, either seeking a new home or a new experience. One such example is Sulenia, who joined our region in early January and quickly became a regular recruitment and military presence.

While not the most social player, Sulenia's background is a legacy of cutting edge competence and truly being at the top of their field in their chosen skills. Rising to prominence in 2021, pointing historic liberations such as Trovons, Sulenia served in the Ten-thousand Islands Treaty Organization as one of its most successful Tactical Officers in my time as a defender. Later on, after a brief stint as a Warden, they served as a regional officer during the second-largest counter invasion ever in the invader wasteland Islamic States.

The most skilled spotter in modern defender history, Sulenia's return to the faction under the LDF's banner offers the oppurtunity to revitalize a struggling expertise in defending. We look forward to their contributions as an officer.

✯ The League's Defense Forces Command ✯
Consul Quebecshire
General New Makasta
Colonel Anjan Kloss
Colonel DinoNet
Colonel Raziel
Lieutenant Icaris
Lieutenant Sulenia

[Reventus Koth]

The most skilled spotter in modern defender history

That really isn't saying much.

Glad you rescued Sulenia from XKI, wishing them well (but not too well!) on the battlefield.

[Quebecshire]

The most skilled spotter in modern defender history

That really isn't saying much.

It really is, though. Sulenia had been spending most of his time on a considerably inferior web-game or as a mercenary for the era where we refer to spotting as dead. When he was actively spotting as a defender, he was elite at it.

[Reventus Koth]

I'm glad that I haven't let my people get too out of practice with our stealth, then. Take notes, BB

[Flying Eagles]

Highly deserved. Congrats Sulenia!

[Comfed]

Congratulations!

[Westinor]

Congrats Sulen :> absolutely deserved

[Quebecshire]

I'm back.

Having not missed a single update since returning from my time as Jessetopia, we've been hard at work in Libcord. This one, however, was probably the most eventful since my return.

It's not about how you start, it's about how you finish. One of the things we were the most critical of raiders for in their depleted era in 2021 (and since then at times) was for giving up. Throwing in the towel. One hyperbolic example that comes to mind is TBH quitting 9 minutes into update because they just couldn't win. They'd just give up, go home.

To the point - today Libcord started the first 10 minutes of update down 1-10. A 9% winrate. Raiders quit for much, much less, even after their resurgence.

First Warden Tim calls for Paul Haku

In spite of this early struggle, Libcord put together a strong 35 minute performance of 17-11 win out over raiders for the back 3/4s of update, causing the invaders to quit at the 45 minute mark. I suppose TBH's stamina is as strong as ever.

On the back foot, we outperform them. It's when the best showings are motivated. No matter how grim things look, the important thing to remember is that we're still here. And that's enough.

Libcord: Still Here

I hope raiderdom enjoyed their break from me. I'm back, and with more motivation to break you than before I went under.

Defenses

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https://www.nationstates.net/region=entity
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https://www.nationstates.net/region=alvoru
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https://www.nationstates.net/region=dogecoin_league
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https://www.nationstates.net/region=slavic_world
https://www.nationstates.net/region=bim
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_union_of_peace
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https://www.nationstates.net/region=dem ... list_union
https://www.nationstates.net/region=coral_reef_7
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Detags

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https://www.nationstates.net/region=magahawgs
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LDF Patriots

Consul Quebecshire
General New Makasta
Lieutenant Sulenia

Allied Forces
[RRA] Minskiev
[SPSF] Cot Deviet
[SPSF] Drew Durrnil
[TGW/SDF] Tim
[TGW] AurAKlimaX
[TGW] Haku
[TGW] Takkaviita

To end things off, I offer you all this leak as a gift.

[Rosartemis]

Let the records show everyone, that is Quebecshire sending ":3" unprompted, this is a major breakthrough.

[Numero Capitan]

Cubic — 23/01/2024 12:17
> what about the infil sucks?
I'm spending the majority of my NS time pretending to be a deliberately vapid/cringey person

This is on you for choosing a vapid persona. When I infiltrated Balder I decided to pose as Onder in my years-long infiltration that has to date been highly successful to the point that I am currently an RO.

The trick is to be cringe on your main so people actually like your alts and they can’t possibly be you.

[Angeloid Astraea]

Let the records show everyone, that is Quebecshire sending ":3" unprompted, this is a major breakthrough.

Quebec was wise to pull out of his spying operation while his soul was only partially uwu-ified. >=]