Arpasia wrote:I feel like Sanctum did something prior to the "LGBT desecration", like what did they do to get something like that?
I'd like to know more about what you're talking about. I know a lot about Layem, but not Sanctum
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by Elvatoes » Wed May 25, 2022 6:51 am
Arpasia wrote:I feel like Sanctum did something prior to the "LGBT desecration", like what did they do to get something like that?
by Bendicion » Wed May 25, 2022 6:54 am
Chaotic Sparkles,c.2023 wrote:this was just one hamster that took on the world and that hamster has now been maintained as governor.
The Sapientia, c.2014 wrote:”You'll be back. Once you start , you can never stop”
LWU gtrf0129 c. 2022 wrote:This raid was so powerful that the power went out in my house lol
by Elvatoes » Wed May 25, 2022 7:03 am
by Bendicion » Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 am
Elvatoes wrote:is there a sanctum forum? if so i am interested for a link for research purposes
Chaotic Sparkles,c.2023 wrote:this was just one hamster that took on the world and that hamster has now been maintained as governor.
The Sapientia, c.2014 wrote:”You'll be back. Once you start , you can never stop”
LWU gtrf0129 c. 2022 wrote:This raid was so powerful that the power went out in my house lol
by Jewish Underground State » Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
Elvatoes wrote:is there a sanctum forum? if so i am interested for a link for research purposes
by Ikania » Wed May 25, 2022 8:11 pm
by Elvatoes » Wed May 25, 2022 11:10 pm
by Arpasia » Thu May 26, 2022 3:02 am
Bendicion wrote:Elvatoes wrote:I'd like to know more about what you're talking about. I know a lot about Layem, but not Sanctum
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=152919&start=3600#p39604915
this thread could help
Le temps de Philippeaux: OrbOb satellite captures S.S Jiangxiao moored on pirate-controlled Nasrah coast. | Black Coast government fully transitions into military dictatorship virtually overnight. | 5.7 magnitude earthquake rocks western Norteagua and Cortina. | Arpasian ambassador to Sufistan disappears after going inside People's Council building.Since those people have anime girls and whatnot on their flags, I decide to use him in my flag, and also, this is not Henry on my flag, it's Konrad and a marine.
by Jewish Underground State » Sat May 28, 2022 8:05 pm
by Elvatoes » Sun May 29, 2022 10:24 am
Jewish Underground State wrote:Well let's put the last log on the fire.
Layem. Some will miss you. Others will dance atop your grave. You were a failed idea. You are a warning for all regions.
But I will give you this
Your inhabitants fought for what they believed in. In a weird twisted way, I find that noble.
by Apatosaurus » Mon May 30, 2022 3:29 pm
by The Proud Transphobe » Mon May 30, 2022 9:33 pm
by RiderSyl » Mon May 30, 2022 10:18 pm
The Proud Transphobe wrote:Yay. The lesser of two evils wins, I guess. Though to be fair, I don't think it is fair to include Antifa in the win. This was clearly going to happen with or without them, so I think we can safely say Antifa's involvement is actually irrelevant. Actually, this 'win' is more of a loss because it just shows how unnecessary they are. They're ultimately just clinging to relevancy, because extremists of all stripes are in fact the enemy of the average person.
by The King Isle » Tue May 31, 2022 2:44 am
Apatosaurus wrote:Confederacy of Layem | VICTORY (for Antifa)!
by Jewish Underground State » Tue May 31, 2022 4:08 am
The Proud Transphobe wrote:Yay. The lesser of two evils wins, I guess. Though to be fair, I don't think it is fair to include Antifa in the win. This was clearly going to happen with or without them, so I think we can safely say Antifa's involvement is actually irrelevant. Actually, this 'win' is more of a loss because it just shows how unnecessary they are. They're ultimately just clinging to relevancy, because extremists of all stripes are in fact the enemy of the average person.
by Arpasia » Tue May 31, 2022 4:16 am
Jewish Underground State wrote:The Proud Transphobe wrote:Yay. The lesser of two evils wins, I guess. Though to be fair, I don't think it is fair to include Antifa in the win. This was clearly going to happen with or without them, so I think we can safely say Antifa's involvement is actually irrelevant. Actually, this 'win' is more of a loss because it just shows how unnecessary they are. They're ultimately just clinging to relevancy, because extremists of all stripes are in fact the enemy of the average person.
Facts. Layem was raided because they pissed so many people off.
Le temps de Philippeaux: OrbOb satellite captures S.S Jiangxiao moored on pirate-controlled Nasrah coast. | Black Coast government fully transitions into military dictatorship virtually overnight. | 5.7 magnitude earthquake rocks western Norteagua and Cortina. | Arpasian ambassador to Sufistan disappears after going inside People's Council building.Since those people have anime girls and whatnot on their flags, I decide to use him in my flag, and also, this is not Henry on my flag, it's Konrad and a marine.
by Straona » Tue May 31, 2022 6:11 am
The Proud Transphobe wrote:Yay. The lesser of two evils wins, I guess. Though to be fair, I don't think it is fair to include Antifa in the win. This was clearly going to happen with or without them, so I think we can safely say Antifa's involvement is actually irrelevant. Actually, this 'win' is more of a loss because it just shows how unnecessary they are. They're ultimately just clinging to relevancy, because extremists of all stripes are in fact the enemy of the average person.
by Xoriet » Tue May 31, 2022 8:30 am
Straona wrote:The Proud Transphobe wrote:Yay. The lesser of two evils wins, I guess. Though to be fair, I don't think it is fair to include Antifa in the win. This was clearly going to happen with or without them, so I think we can safely say Antifa's involvement is actually irrelevant. Actually, this 'win' is more of a loss because it just shows how unnecessary they are. They're ultimately just clinging to relevancy, because extremists of all stripes are in fact the enemy of the average person.
Yep. People praise Antifa as if they were the ones who were behind the raid when in reality Layem pissed people off to the point of no return. You don't need an antifa here to take out an extremely deplorable region. The raid would've happened with or without them
by Straona » Tue May 31, 2022 11:13 am
Xoriet wrote:Straona wrote:Yep. People praise Antifa as if they were the ones who were behind the raid when in reality Layem pissed people off to the point of no return. You don't need an antifa here to take out an extremely deplorable region. The raid would've happened with or without them
Actually, you're not too correct here. Antifa's server is a neutral ground where people across the R/D spectrum feel comfortable coordinating with each other and are expected to be civil to each other regardless of ideological differences, and as a result all of these nice, big operations against problematic regions are possible in their current form. Without having a group that is able to be the umbrella that isn't raider or defender under which we all reach a common ground and get things done, we wouldn't be having nearly this much success in gathering together to get things done.
by Xoriet » Tue May 31, 2022 11:24 am
Straona wrote:sure. I'll believe that when I see it. You can see R/D nations talking in a neutral environment regardless of whether Antifa is the reason or not. Its called IRL hobbies that many people share. This website is not some big part of the online world. Its total population is less than the smallest populated state in the US. It isn't a huge platform.
R/D nations aren't as hostile to each other as you think especially when new members discover that their opposites share similar real tangible interests outside of this site. Again I will believe Antifa is this big force making people quiver in fear when I see it. That group is only "feared" because of regions like The Black Hawks that help it. Not the group itself
by Straona » Tue May 31, 2022 11:39 am
Xoriet wrote:Straona wrote:sure. I'll believe that when I see it. You can see R/D nations talking in a neutral environment regardless of whether Antifa is the reason or not. Its called IRL hobbies that many people share. This website is not some big part of the online world. Its total population is less than the smallest populated state in the US. It isn't a huge platform.
R/D nations aren't as hostile to each other as you think especially when new members discover that their opposites share similar real tangible interests outside of this site. Again I will believe Antifa is this big force making people quiver in fear when I see it. That group is only "feared" because of regions like The Black Hawks that help it. Not the group itself
Your entire post is a textbook example of how to say "I'm wrong and I will demonstrate it to the world" in two paragraphs. Just because Gameplayers interact with each other in neutral spaces has nothing to do with the depth of the politics and ideological struggles that go on otherwise. Whether or not individual players are willing to interact with each other on civil terms in a public space has nothing to do with whether or not those players are willing to cooperate outside of a social setting.
Antifa is essentially what created the exact symbol that was needed for all of us to get along and play nicely in pursuit of a common goal. Past antifascist efforts were marred by rivalries, arguments over who got credit, tensions between the sides, and general dissent leading up to the operation itself and extending to after the fact.
Furthermore, the most key point of how objectively, utterly, and overwhelmingly wrong you are: Antifa doesn't need TBH to collectively pull 50-60 pilers among the members of Antifa and their friends and 20+ updaters for standard fascist operations outside of the big ops like Genua, Sanctum, and Layem. TBH is a very new addition to Antifa itself and before last year would not cooperate with it at all under their own name if defender groups attended.
Nice try, and maybe study up R/D dynamics, NS politics, and game history before trying to explain Antifa and its role in the game to someone who has been closely working with it since 2019.
by Jewish Underground State » Tue May 31, 2022 2:18 pm
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