The Benefit of Slavery

[The Parkus Empire]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to import more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

[S i t k a]

Preeeeeeeeeettty sure that's not constitutional. I haven't read every amendment, granted, but I'm pretty sure freedom from slavery has been a given since Lincoln.

[Appalachian Communists]

Just one question.

What the actual, genuine, wholeheartedly honest fuck?

[Valgora]

Preeeeeeeeeettty sure that's not constitutional. I haven't read every amendment, granted, but I'm pretty sure freedom from slavery has been a given since Lincoln.

13th Amendment outlaws slavery... except as a punishment for a crime.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

[New Emeline]

Sounds bad scoob

[Zactannia]

Well your idea isn't very groundbreaking. I'm pretty sure a small amount of labor is done by convicts somewhere, but it's too stigmatized by history to be actually pass full on slavery into law.

[Auphelia]

I have no idea about laws in the United States, so I will take your word on the legality of the matter.

As for implementations, I think they could be forced to work in carefully guarded nationalised farms. If they were sold to private business they would have a better chance at escaping, no?

[The Parkus Empire]

Sounds bad scoob

Prison doesn't actually make you a better person, shaggy

[New Emeline]

Sounds bad scoob

Prison doesn't actually make you a better person, shaggy

Neither does, like, slave labor.

[Roosevetania]

Preeeeeeeeeettty sure that's not constitutional. I haven't read every amendment, granted, but I'm pretty sure freedom from slavery has been a given since Lincoln.

13th Amendment outlaws slavery... except as a punishment for a crime.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

This is correct. It's constitutional, but forced unpaid labor is always wrong.

[The Parkus Empire]

I have no idea about laws in the United States, so I will take your word on the legality of the matter.

As for implementations, I think they could be forced to work in carefully guarded nationalised farms. If they were sold to private business they would have a better chance at escaping, no?

Maybe, but I'm inclined to believe private owners would take plenty of precaution to keep a hold of their investment

[Arbeitersrepublik]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Ever heard of the prison industrial complex?
It's basically that.

[Nunavutialand]

UN Human Rights Declaration Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Really, Parkus, what in the actual fuck?

[The Parkus Empire]

Prison doesn't actually make you a better person, shaggy

Neither does, like, slave labor.

I don't know, you take a spoiled child and make him work his ass off,and it often helps. But I am slightly biased having been to prison and realized it's a very bad system

[Irou]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Sounds efficient but is moral?

[Valgora]

UN Human Rights Declaration Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Like the UN could really do anything about it.

[The Parkus Empire]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Really, Parkus, what in the actual fuck?

I honestly see nothing wrong with it, in prison you are given a job and pay goes to restitution

[S i t k a]

Preeeeeeeeeettty sure that's not constitutional. I haven't read every amendment, granted, but I'm pretty sure freedom from slavery has been a given since Lincoln.

14th Amendment outlaws slavery... except as a punishment for a crime.

Based on a quick internet search, I think you mean the thirteenth. Thinking about it, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given that prisoners have to work in prisons.

I don't think this thread is going to go anywhere good, though. Having work to do and feeling useful can be good for a person, but the title of this thread alone suggests that that isn't the main point here...

[Dogmeat]

"Crime rates are dropping, we better lobby to increase minimum sentencing if we want to maintain our bottom line."

[Nunavutialand]

Sounds efficient but is moral?

more like sounds efficient but does it violate article 4 of the universal declaration of human rights?

[New Emeline]

Like the UN could really do anything about it.

They could write a very strongly worded letter.

[The Parkus Empire]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Sounds efficient but is moral?

If putting someone to death is moral

[Qroma]

Nah mate, don't sound good.

[S i t k a]

Like the UN could really do anything about it.

They made the great Max Barry change the name of the World Assembly. Nobody's beyond their reach.

If putting someone to death is moral

It isn't, in my opinion, but I know better than to get myself dragged into that argument.