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Dodekatheism and Pagan Reconstructionism

Postby Reikoku » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 am

Dodekatheism is one of several new religious movements that attempts to resurrect the old Hellenic pagan religion, being most prominent in Greece where it was legally recognized in 2017, though it has a following outside of Greece as well. Besides Dodekatheism, there are other reconstruction movements, such as Celtic and Nordic ones, which attempt to revive their respective ancestral religions through following reconstructed rites and texts. What do you think about these attempts, and the philosophy behind them?

While I don't believe in Hellenism, nor would it make sense for a non-Greek to, I'd be for a restoration of the old pagan religions, because of their historic and aesthetic value. As someone fond of Neoplatonism, it'd be nice to see a revival of the old Neoplatonic schools.

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I won't be convinced they're legit until they start reading the entrails of sheep.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:03 am

Reikoku wrote:What do you think about these attempts, and the philosophy behind them?

In the best cases is mostly-innocuous religious nonsense - not more nonsensical than other religions.
In the worst case is linked to the rise of far-right nationalist movements, and we've had more than a fair share of that stuff in Europe, thank you so much.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:05 am

Genivaria wrote:I won't be convinced they're legit until they start reading the entrails of sheep.

No surviving instructions on how or else I am sure they would
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:08 am

Risottia wrote:
Reikoku wrote:What do you think about these attempts, and the philosophy behind them?

In the best cases is mostly-innocuous religious nonsense - not more nonsensical than other religions.
In the worst case is linked to the rise of far-right nationalist movements, and we've had more than a fair share of that stuff in Europe, thank you so much.

Golden Dawn switched their support to the Greek Orthodox Church which hates Greek paganism's revival
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Reikoku wrote:Dodekatheism is one of several new religious movements that attempts to resurrect the old Hellenic pagan religion, being most prominent in Greece where it was legally recognized in 2017, though it has a following outside of Greece as well. Besides Dodekatheism, there are other reconstruction movements, such as Celtic and Nordic ones, which attempt to revive their respective ancestral religions through following reconstructed rites and texts. What do you think about these attempts, and the philosophy behind them?

While I don't believe in Hellenism, nor would it make sense for a non-Greek to, I'd be for a restoration of the old pagan religions, because of their historic and aesthetic value. As someone fond of Neoplatonism, it'd be nice to see a revival of the old Neoplatonic schools.

Oh look, more playacting about "cool old religion aren't we so special for not worshiping an abrahamic god XD"
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Postby Zanera » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:08 pm

Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Risottia wrote:In the best cases is mostly-innocuous religious nonsense - not more nonsensical than other religions.
In the worst case is linked to the rise of far-right nationalist movements, and we've had more than a fair share of that stuff in Europe, thank you so much.

Golden Dawn switched their support to the Greek Orthodox Church which hates Greek paganism's revival


Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:11 pm

Zanera wrote:Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?

The Parkus Empire wrote:Golden Dawn switched their support to the Greek Orthodox Church which hates Greek paganism's revival


Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

We are a very sensitive church and love to dialogue
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Postby Vivida Vis Animi » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:16 pm

It will be interesting to see if the major religions take a "holier than thou" approach when regarding the new(ish?) religion.
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Postby Zanera » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:16 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Zanera wrote:Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?



Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

We are a very sensitive church and love to dialogue


Pretty strong dialogue. Heh.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:21 pm

Zanera wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We are a very sensitive church and love to dialogue


Pretty strong dialogue. Heh.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:23 pm

Zanera wrote:Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?

The Parkus Empire wrote:Golden Dawn switched their support to the Greek Orthodox Church which hates Greek paganism's revival


Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

Reminds me of this.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:37 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Zanera wrote:Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?



Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

Reminds me of this.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:37 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Reminds me of this.
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Fabricated quote

Still hilarious.
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Postby Zanera » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:43 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Zanera wrote:Do they have a temple devoted to any of the gods, or do they just do their services standing around long-defiled carcasses?



Yes, the Greek Orthodox Church had some words to say on it:
"They are a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion who wish to return to the monstrous dark delusions of the past," said Father Efstathios Kollas, the President of Greek Clergymen.

Reminds me of this.
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The Hellenists say they've been persecuted.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:44 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Fabricated quote

Still hilarious.

Enlightened people don't waste time on church and prayer, they watch anime instead. :^)
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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:45 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Still hilarious.

Enlightened people don't waste time on church and prayer, they watch anime instead. :^)

I wonder if there's Christian anime....

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:46 pm

Zanera wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Reminds me of this.
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The Hellenists say they've been persecuted.

Of course they've been persecuted that much should be obvious.
What does it say that the first response of the local religious head is slander and attacks?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:46 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Enlightened people don't waste time on church and prayer, they watch anime instead. :^)

I wonder if there's Christian anime....

I hope not, Christ-chan is bad enough
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:47 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Enlightened people don't waste time on church and prayer, they watch anime instead. :^)

I wonder if there's Christian anime....

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Postby Zanera » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Zanera wrote:
The Hellenists say they've been persecuted.

Of course they've been persecuted that much should be obvious.
What does it say that the first response of the local religious head is slander and attacks?


They are threatened, maybe. Apparently Hellenism has hundreds of followers already.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Zanera wrote:
The Hellenists say they've been persecuted.

Of course they've been persecuted that much should be obvious.
What does it say that the first response of the local religious head is slander and attacks?

Worshipping demons gets you critiqued, bud. Not like these heathens haven't talked up a storm of shit about the Church first
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