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Man drives minivan into crowd in Münster, Germany

Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:06 am

According to Der Spiegel and various other news sources "a vehicle" a minivan was just deliberately driven into a crowd of people in Munster Münster, killing 3 2 and wounding 30. Authorities have confirmed the driver shot himself - bringing the total death toll to 4 3. 6 of the wounded are still in critical condition.

Police are treating it like a terrorist attack and are urging people to avoid the city center.

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http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschla ... 01753.html
Police are checking the area for explosives.

Note for the people a few posts down who thought it necessary to make assumptions about the religion of the driver: there is NOTHING known about that yet.


People did however note that on the 7th of april 2017 a very similar terrorist attack using a truck occured in Stockholm.

Vassenor wrote:
Herbert Reul, the interior minister of North Rhine-Westphalia state, where Muenster is located, said the driver of the van that crashed Saturday afternoon into a crowd outside a popular bar was a German citizen. He stressed the investigation is at an early stage but said “at the moment, nothing speaks for there being any Islamist background.”


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Death toll also revised down to two plus driver.


Updates: the driver has been identified as "Jens R.", a German man, nonmuslim, no relation to immigrants - except for ties to the extreme right (source: ZDF).
The total death toll is 3 (sofar, still a few people in hospital) including himself. He has been confirmed to have shot himself.

Baltenstein wrote:Latest news update: Police found a weapon (not specified if it's the one the perpetrator used to shoot himself) in the vehicle, along with a gas pistol and about a dozen firecracker explosives (known in Germany as "Polish crackers". Illegal for having too much explosive force). They also found an AK47 and more firecrackers at his appartment.
Looks like he was planning to make this whole thing far nastier, but he apparently - thankfully - lost nerve after his car came to a halt.


Baltenstein wrote:Anyways, update:

After searching the perpetrator's apartments - he had several - his character profile is progressing: He worked as an industrial designer and was apparently rather well-off financially. The police found a suicide goodbye-letter of sorts in the perpetrator's flat in which he laid out what had gone wrong for him in life - being bullied at school, problems with his parents, problems with his family, anxiety, stress attacks, mental disturbances, bad luck at work lately etc. the usual things.
Apparently he didn't imply wanting to hurt other people though.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:12 am

The Alma Mater wrote:According to Der Spiegel and various other news sources "a vehicle" was just deliberately driven into a crowd of people in Munster, killing 3 and wounding 30. Police are treating it like a terrorist attack and are urging people to avoid the city center.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschla ... 01753.html

More news to follow....

Sigh, cars as weapons. I wonder if busy places will start putting up barricades to protect pedestrians.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:12 am

The Alma Mater wrote:According to Der Spiegel and various other news sources "a vehicle" was just deliberately driven into a crowd of people in Munster.

*Muenster, not Munster.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:13 am

Neutraligon wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:According to Der Spiegel and various other news sources "a vehicle" was just deliberately driven into a crowd of people in Munster, killing 3 and wounding 30. Police are treating it like a terrorist attack and are urging people to avoid the city center.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschla ... 01753.html

More news to follow....

Sigh, cars as weapons. I wonder if busy places will start putting up barricades to protect pedestrians.

A lot of places in the UK and Europe already do.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:13 am

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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:14 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:According to Der Spiegel and various other news sources "a vehicle" was just deliberately driven into a crowd of people in Munster.

*Muenster, not Munster.

*Münster, not Muenster.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Sigh, cars as weapons. I wonder if busy places will start putting up barricades to protect pedestrians.

A lot of places in the UK and Europe already do.

I know it is common in London, since I have been there. Last time I was in Germany it wasn't that common from what I remember, but that was well over 10 years ago. I would guess it will become more common as these events happen more and more.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:16 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*Muenster, not Munster.

*Münster, not Muenster.

Nope, Münster and Muenster can be used interchangeably, but Munster is just a mistake.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:17 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*Muenster, not Munster.

*Münster, not Muenster.


At least I wrote it correctly in the title.

Further news:
- apparantly the driver committed suicide afterwards
- the victims were sitting outside, enjoying a beer and the sun..

Note: it is unconfirmed if this is truly the place of the incidents, but since it was shared on at least 3 major newsoutlets..

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:17 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*Muenster, not Munster.

*Münster, not Muenster.


Mönster as the locals say it.

There, I know it is Germany, but the Grammar Nazi schpiel is a bit too much :p
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Postby Kaitjan » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:18 am

It's a year since the truck attack in Stockholm, so this seems a bit too fitting to be an accident. However, it remains to see who to blame; accident, unmotivated killing or the actions of a certain religion of peace.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:18 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:*Münster, not Muenster.


At least I wrote it correctly in the title.

Further news:
- apparantly the driver committed suicide afterwards
- the victims were sitting outside, enjoying a beer and the sun..

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:19 am

This is horrible. I hope whoever did this horrible attack is locked away.

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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:19 am

Kaitjan wrote:It's a year since the truck attack in Stockholm, so this seems a bit too fitting to be an accident. However, it remains to see who to blame; accident, unmotivated killing or the actions of a certain religion of peace.

What evidence do you have ?

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:20 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This is horrible. I hope whoever did this horrible attack is locked away.

He is dead. Too late.
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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:21 am

Where there any fatalities in the attack?
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Postby Devi Vytherin » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:21 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:*Münster, not Muenster.

Nope, Münster and Muenster can be used interchangeably, but Munster is just a mistake.

Especially given that Munster is another town entirely.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:*Münster, not Muenster.

Nope, Münster and Muenster can be used interchangeably, but Munster is just a mistake.

I'm a diacritical exclusivist, so no.
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Kaitjan wrote:It's a year since the truck attack in Stockholm, so this seems a bit too fitting to be an accident. However, it remains to see who to blame; accident, unmotivated killing or the actions of a certain religion of peace.

What evidence do you have ?

What?

That's the three main possibilities: accident, murder, and Islamic terrorism. He's not saying with certainty it was terrorism.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:What evidence do you have ?

What?

That's the three main possibilities: accident, murder, and Islamic terrorism. He's not saying with certainty it was terrorism.

It could be non-Islamic terrorism as well...
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This is horrible. I hope whoever did this horrible attack is locked away.

He is dead. Too late.

So if he'll be buried, Herp gets his wish.
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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:23 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:What evidence do you have ?

What?

That's the three main possibilities: accident, murder, and Islamic terrorism. He's not saying with certainty it was terrorism.

So it's impossible for non muslims to commit terror.

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Cekoviu wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What?

That's the three main possibilities: accident, murder, and Islamic terrorism. He's not saying with certainty it was terrorism.

It could be non-Islamic terrorism as well...

Noooo, all terrorists are islamic. that's how things work :roll:
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The New California Republic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This is horrible. I hope whoever did this horrible attack is locked away.

He is dead. Too late.

I hope he rots in jail.
Cekoviu wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What?

That's the three main possibilities: accident, murder, and Islamic terrorism. He's not saying with certainty it was terrorism.

It could be non-Islamic terrorism as well...

It could also be a Russian hitman, your point?
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