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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:00 pm

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Republic of the Cristo wrote:Whoa whoa whoa. You are launching more stuff? Listen, if any more nukes than the initial volley hit the USSR - I am going back to full on nuclear depopulation ( I've got that list saved ). I don't really want to do that though - so could we just keep with the initial volley?

As I said in the UN speech post that I deleted, the Nordic Commonwealth doesn't have any no-first-strike policy whatsoever. Such a policy would be silly, considering that we border multiple powers with way stronger conventional militaries than we do.

In a direct military invasion aimed and occupation of Nordic territory, the Strategic Rocket Command will keep launching until the Nordic Commonwealth is destroyed, the attackers give up, or it runs out of nukes - whichever comes first.


In which case, I can tell you which comes first ( I still have the list ). Look, I know it might be true to life for the SRC to keep launching nukes, but it's not a very good RP mechanic. I will have to go back to launching a nuke at every one of your cities with a population over 150,000, and that will knock you out of the game and that's not really fun for anyone. For the sake of fun RPing, I think that we should just keep it to the initial volley.
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Postby Plzen » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:In which case, I can tell you which comes first ( I still have the list ). Look, I know it might be true to life for the SRC to keep launching nukes, but it's not a very good RP mechanic. I will have to go back to launching a nuke at every one of your cities with a population over 150,000, and that will knock you out of the game and that's not really fun for anyone. For the sake of fun RPing, I think that we should just keep it to the initial volley.

The Nordic Commonwealth is completely deprived of conventional means by which to defend its territory. In a couple days, there will be complete Soviet control of Nordic territory from Bergen to Helsinki, with a holdout in maybe Iceland.

If a "full nuclear retaliation" isn't the response that you are expecting when you completely defeat and occupy a nuclear power, I don't know what it is that you were expecting. A deterrence is useless unless we show a willingness to follow through on them when the hostile power goes ahead and does the deterred action anyways.

Personally I think it would be very interesting to set up a government-in-exile in New York and roleplay the rapidly unfolding humanitarian crisis of 20+ million people with no clear means of feeding any of them.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:27 pm

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Republic of the Cristo wrote:In which case, I can tell you which comes first ( I still have the list ). Look, I know it might be true to life for the SRC to keep launching nukes, but it's not a very good RP mechanic. I will have to go back to launching a nuke at every one of your cities with a population over 150,000, and that will knock you out of the game and that's not really fun for anyone. For the sake of fun RPing, I think that we should just keep it to the initial volley.

The Nordic Commonwealth is completely deprived of conventional means by which to defend its territory. In a couple days, there will be complete Soviet control of Nordic territory from Bergen to Helsinki, with a holdout in maybe Iceland.

If a "full nuclear retaliation" isn't the response that you are expecting when you completely defeat and occupy a nuclear power, I don't know what it is that you were expecting. A deterrence is useless unless we show a willingness to follow through on them when the hostile power goes ahead and does the deterred action anyways.

Personally I think it would be very interesting to set up a government-in-exile in New York and roleplay the rapidly unfolding humanitarian crisis of 20+ million people with no clear means of feeding any of them.


So... you just want me to go full nuclear genocide?
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Postby Plzen » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:28 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:So... you just want me to go full nuclear genocide?

What I want you to do is stop invading, but that likely won't happen.

What I expect you to do is complete your current military invasion of the Nordic homelands, and if you feel like nuking cities that you already control there's not much I can do about that.

Regardless, expect further retaliation.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:30 pm

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Republic of the Cristo wrote:So... you just want me to go full nuclear genocide?

What I want you to do is stop invading, but that likely won't happen.

What I expect you to do is complete your current military invasion of the Nordic homelands, and if you feel like nuking cities that you already control there's not much I can do about that.

Regardless, expect further retaliation.


Oh I don't control them just yet - this is all happening within like 8 minutes. The point of a sudden and all out nuclear strike was to eliminate most of your nuclear capabilities. I mean, I guess we will control them after we march in but you know... what ever. If we are just going to go with full on nuclear genocide, than I shall just keep my initial post and hold off on the invasion for a few days ( wait for some of the fallout to clear up ).
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Postby Plzen » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:35 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Oh I don't control them just yet - this is all happening within like 8 minutes. The point of a sudden and all out nuclear strike was to eliminate most of your nuclear capabilities.

...I don't know why you would possibly expect this to be successful, between silos on hair-trigger alert and nuclear subs.

Republic of the Cristo wrote:If we are just going to go with full on nuclear genocide, than I shall just keep my initial post and hold off on the invasion for a few days ( wait for some of the fallout to clear up ).

Doesn't change my current response, then. The nuclear subs would remain where they are, and open up when they're convinced that the conventional front is becoming hopeless - probably about a day after you start the invasion.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:44 pm

Plzen wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:Oh I don't control them just yet - this is all happening within like 8 minutes. The point of a sudden and all out nuclear strike was to eliminate most of your nuclear capabilities.

...I don't know why you would possibly expect this to be successful, between silos on hair-trigger alert and nuclear subs.

Republic of the Cristo wrote:If we are just going to go with full on nuclear genocide, than I shall just keep my initial post and hold off on the invasion for a few days ( wait for some of the fallout to clear up ).

Doesn't change my current response, then. The nuclear subs would remain where they are, and open up when they're convinced that the conventional front is becoming hopeless - probably about a day after you start the invasion.


Alright - so I will just revert back to my initial post of total nuclear annihilation. Am working on the newest post now.
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Postby Northern Poland » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:47 am

Communism
Player Name: Northern Poland
Your Country: The Peoples Republic Of Poland
Land Claimed: Poland
Flag:
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Government Form: Single Party State
Leader/s: President Alekzander Whitt
Vice President Joseph Edward
Secretary Of Defense Jüri Luik
Secretary of Transportation Oswald Ronald
And many more departments etc.
Ideology: Communism
Nation's history: (POD at 1980) Regular History, Until the 90s, when Poland established the Peoples Space Frontier, which was supposed to cooperate with the USSR's Space Agency. They started to develop their own rocket with about 10% of their GDP. They worked on a Military satellite that might be launched in the near future. They Built the Polish Missile Readiness Station (PMRS) In the North Of Poland To Protect Poland from missiles coming from the North. the Southeast Missile Readiness was built for Missiles from the rest of Europe. They then established the 12 Mechanized Infantry Division, the 4th Armored Division, and The 1st Peoples Guard. They also Established the People's Militia, with the 1st People's Militia Battalion being formed In Gdańsk. They poured money into the Space Program, resulting in breakthroughs for the rocket coming fast. The work with the Soviets falted, and are working more Independent. They started building factories for T-72s, and started to drift from the Warsaw pact. They are now trying to raise the money per person.
Official Language/s: Polish
Population:44.145 Million
Military Size:700,000 Soldiers
300,000 In the Army
200,000 Sailors and Marines
2 Destroyers
3 Frigates
2 Submarines
30 Patrol Boats
1 Assault Carrier
1 Cruiser
50 Sea King Helicopters
20 MIGS
10 HINDs
200,000 In the air force
150 HINDS
100 MIGs
4 Super Hercules
4 stratofortresses
1,000 Ground Crew
5,000 0f the 700,000 in the Sea Raiders
300 Main Battle Tanks
400 Armored Fighting Vechicles
400 Armored Personnel Vehicles
200,000 Trucks
700 Howitzers
200 Multiple Rocket Systems
500 SAMS
9,000 Mortars
(In Progress)
Military Joint Exploration Leauge
1 In Progress Rocket, looks like a mix between the Soyuz rocket and the orion
Description of Military: The Military is not the best offensive one, and is mostly Used for defense. The Technological Focus of the nation does leave the Military on one of the lower priorities, but still getting good funding.
Main Industries: Arms Manufacturing, Shipbuilding, Agriculture, and Aerospace
Your Country's Goals and Ambitions: Launching Their own space mission, and launching a Military satellite
Geopolitical Standing: (would you call yourself a superpower, regional power, minor power, small nation, etc?)[/quote] Middle Ish Power, Maybe a Minor One Nations such as the soviet union would crush them without hesitation. They can only really protect Poland, and maybe a few smaller nations in the balkans.
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Postby Northern Poland » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:23 am

Pokes with stick
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:20 am

Hum. Anyone seen Lab?
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Postby Northern Poland » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:30 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hum. Anyone seen Lab?

He hasn't been active for the last 3 days to my knowledge.
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Postby Northern Poland » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:43 am

Northern Poland wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hum. Anyone seen Lab?

He hasn't been active for the last 3 days to my knowledge.

Get a medic, I think the pulse on this one just stopped..
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Postby Labstoska » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:46 am

Sorry I've been on a hiatus for the past few days due to the fact that I've been out and about during my holiday.

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Postby Northern Poland » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:48 am

Labstoska wrote:Sorry I've been on a hiatus for the past few days due to the fact that I've been out and about during my holiday.

Oh sorry, Didn't know you where on Holiday. I have a lot of free time, so I'm usually on the computer. Everything else seems boring right now, I spend 50% of my day on Nationstates Sadly. But I'm gonna take that down to 20% hopefully
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