by Saiwania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:44 pm
by Auphelia » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:47 pm
by Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:47 pm
by Chill beats LLC » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:49 pm
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by Azerbaijstan » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:51 pm
Saiwania wrote:Anarcho-primitivism, is a fringe political or social movement that seeks to take our species back more towards the Stone Age. Like most people, I used to think that all there was to it- were a bunch of nut jobs that are neolithic wannabes. But as it turns out, it would seem that the primitive technologies and methods of our ancestors really did have a ton of merit. Our more modern lifestyles are absolutely no good for us in some respects. We're now too dependent on everything continuing to work as how we want it, such that if it were to stop- the vast majority of us wouldn't stand any chance.
It is a long lost art that if we can only recover or recreate it, any one of us can endure the loss of our current civilization and survive in the wilds of this world with relative comfort or ease.
There is this Youtube channel called Primitive Technology which gives demonstration videos of how to do all the things expected of hunter gatherers that enables survival. It has become one of the most popular channels on Youtube. His videos seem to get many millions of views because people want to know this stuff. It really inspires me to go into my backyard and try to recreate one of his tools or structures using only what I find outside.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/15/youtube ... e-age.html
To date, you could learn the following from his 35+ videos (with more to come) if you're able to get sufficient time and practice for it.
With only your bare hands, you can build the following structures: Waddle and Daub Hut, Thatched Dome Hut, Wood shed and bee domestication (produces honey), Palm Thatched Mud Hut, Tiled Roof Hut, Grass Hut, Barrel Tiled Shed, Bed Shed, and A-Frame Hut, and more.
It is also plausible for someone to manufacture the following tools with only natural materials: Fire sticks, Celtic style stone axe, Stone Adze, Clay Chimney and Pots, Sling, Baskets and Stone Hatchet, Cord drill and pump drill, Bow and Arrow, Woven Bark Fiber, Forge Blower, Freshwater Prawn Trap, Termite clay Kiln and Pottery, Water powered Hammer (Monjolo), Reusable Charcoal Mound, Sandals, Simplified Blower and Furnace, Mud Bricks, Natural Draft Furnace, Clay Pottery and Stove, etc.
People could learn the following methods using only their surroundings: How to produce Lime, Producing Charcoal, Growing Sweet potatoes, Cassava, and yams; the finer points of spear throwing, making certain beans or nuts safe to eat, etc.
My honest opinion is that he is a legend, he makes Bear Grylls look like a child; he is that skilled in the ways of bending nature to his dominion. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be alive, but me along with most of the rest of us- would starve or die of exposure to the elements or any number of things.
My theory is that people primarily object to primitivism not out of any love or dedication to our newer technology or way of life, but simply because most people can't figure out how to survive off the grid if put into that situation and don't have the means or ability to sufficiently learn those crucial skills. If it really was viable for people to just up and live off the land and quit civilization, do you think more people would do this?
Our modern life is obviously far superior in terms of amenities, it can be said to be more soulless because we've lost our connection with nature. I think I would jump at the chance to go back to our ancestral roots and try that sort of life for myself.
If you had to choose- would you pick the relative safety of civilization knowing full well that you won't be able to survive going outside of it, OR would you sacrifice living a modern lifestyle if you got the opportunity to learn the lost art of living off the land and had everything you needed to live primitively?
by Gallia- » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:55 pm
Azerbaijstan wrote:Isn't YouTube and the internet against Anarcho Primitivism?
Saiwania wrote:I think I would jump at the chance to go back to our ancestral roots and try that sort of life for myself.
by Saiwania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:58 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:59 pm
by United Mercenary Firms » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:01 pm
--Best Comment ever.Private Military Contractors are not heroes; we are businessmen. I am one -- and I do it for the money - nothing else. The only loyalty I have is to those fellow contractors whom I serve with and work for and I do not work for any other country but my own. That's it. Do we do risky heroic stuff daily? You bet! But if the paycheck stopped I would move on. Soldiers are the heroes. I was one and they sent me where they wanted and when for chicken feed. Now I get to choose.
by Chill beats LLC » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:03 pm
Quotes| The Vibe:Cult of the Vibe dismembers 10, kills 3 more! High Priest Cromwell says "Sometimes, the people need to lend us a hand." | DJ Doug to publicly execute US presidents Bush, Clinton, Obama, in the Port of Rhodes! | NS Nation "Amyllia", founded 2011, is erased from reality, sacrificed by the Cult of the Vibe, all memory of this beloved F7er gone from the multiverse!| RPs
by Dooom35796821595 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:03 pm
by Bombadil » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:04 pm
Taihei Tengoku wrote:The fact that you are not building huts and posting on Nationstates General about huts instead reveals your preferences towards technology.
by Neanderthaland » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 pm
Saiwania wrote:I've been thinking that not everyone enjoys the fruits of civilization as it is anyways, there are a lot of homeless people for example.
Do you think those people could benefit if they were able to survive off of only what can be found in nature. Hmm? It seems better from my perspective, than begging for charity or being trapped into wage slavery.
by Chill beats LLC » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 pm
Bombadil wrote:Taihei Tengoku wrote:The fact that you are not building huts and posting on Nationstates General about huts instead reveals your preferences towards technology.
I didn't see the OP stating this was their committed belief and we should all live this way so kind of an odd comment to make.
I'd be happy with a mix, I quite like air conditioning, refrigeration and the internet. I'd be happy to have a series of solar panels strung along the equator but then a return to living off the land. I think tasers would allow us to essentially live with nature perfectly fine.
Having said that it really depends on aliens.. if they exist then I guess we need to continue with technology to ensure our future survival.. if they don't then happy to live more in tune with nature and return to a simpler life.
Quotes| The Vibe:Cult of the Vibe dismembers 10, kills 3 more! High Priest Cromwell says "Sometimes, the people need to lend us a hand." | DJ Doug to publicly execute US presidents Bush, Clinton, Obama, in the Port of Rhodes! | NS Nation "Amyllia", founded 2011, is erased from reality, sacrificed by the Cult of the Vibe, all memory of this beloved F7er gone from the multiverse!| RPs
by Saiwania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:09 pm
Gallia- wrote:Is someone holding a gun to your head and telling you you can't move to a more rural part of your country to make mud huts in your backyard?
by Bombadil » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:15 pm
Chill beats LLC wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I didn't see the OP stating this was their committed belief and we should all live this way so kind of an odd comment to make.
I'd be happy with a mix, I quite like air conditioning, refrigeration and the internet. I'd be happy to have a series of solar panels strung along the equator but then a return to living off the land. I think tasers would allow us to essentially live with nature perfectly fine.
Having said that it really depends on aliens.. if they exist then I guess we need to continue with technology to ensure our future survival.. if they don't then happy to live more in tune with nature and return to a simpler life.
Not to derail a thread, but who says aliens would be more advanced than us? Odds are, any alien life in our galaxy probably isn't even multi-celled, let alone advanced enough to invade and obliterate us. Okay, alien rant done, continue with primitivism.
by United Mercenary Firms » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:17 pm
Saiwania wrote:Gallia- wrote:Is someone holding a gun to your head and telling you you can't move to a more rural part of your country to make mud huts in your backyard?
Well, it simply isn't viable in most cases. There are certain zoning, property and land ownership laws to contend with depending on where you are.
--Best Comment ever.Private Military Contractors are not heroes; we are businessmen. I am one -- and I do it for the money - nothing else. The only loyalty I have is to those fellow contractors whom I serve with and work for and I do not work for any other country but my own. That's it. Do we do risky heroic stuff daily? You bet! But if the paycheck stopped I would move on. Soldiers are the heroes. I was one and they sent me where they wanted and when for chicken feed. Now I get to choose.
by Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:17 pm
Chill beats LLC wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I didn't see the OP stating this was their committed belief and we should all live this way so kind of an odd comment to make.
I'd be happy with a mix, I quite like air conditioning, refrigeration and the internet. I'd be happy to have a series of solar panels strung along the equator but then a return to living off the land. I think tasers would allow us to essentially live with nature perfectly fine.
Having said that it really depends on aliens.. if they exist then I guess we need to continue with technology to ensure our future survival.. if they don't then happy to live more in tune with nature and return to a simpler life.
Not to derail a thread, but who says aliens would be more advanced than us? Odds are, any alien life in our galaxy probably isn't even multi-celled, let alone advanced enough to invade and obliterate us. Okay, alien rant done, continue with primitivism.
by Conserative Morality » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:18 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:19 pm
by Cetacea » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:30 pm
by Azerbaijstan » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:34 pm
Chill beats LLC wrote:I agree anprim-ism is a bit stupid, but so is "haha i see you posted you argument from technology so everything you say is now wrong "
by Saiwania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:37 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:You can still like and want to live in civilization while knowing how to do such things.
by Reikoku » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:40 pm
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