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Is St. Patrick's Day "Cultural Appropriation"?

Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:35 pm

I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.

I'd just like to clarify that i'm not saying that St. Paddy's day should be deemed a bad or insensitive holiday, just that the fact that Social Justice isn't all over it shows how much of a double standard they got against white folks
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Postby Octuagesimo » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:37 pm

It's not because the Irish aren't oppressed.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:37 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.

I have nothing better to say than /thread. Besides, how can one declare cultural appropriation without the consent of natives, besides the fact that they might (and, in the case of St Paddy's, often do) take part?
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:40 pm

According to wiki: "Cultural appropriation, often framed as cultural misappropriation, is a concept in sociology dealing with the adoption of the elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture. It is distinguished from equal cultural exchange due to the presence of a colonial element and imbalance of power."

Does St Patty's Day qualify? Perhaps. Do I care? No.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:40 pm

Octuagesimo wrote:It's not because the Irish aren't oppressed.

Neither are blacks, mexicans, Indians, East Asians, or Native Americans. Sure, say what you want about history, but the Irish have had a pretty unfortunate history themselves.
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Postby Auphelia » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:41 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.


Is drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and having a one night stand a part of Irish culture?
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:41 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.


Is drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and having a one night stand a part of Irish culture?


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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:42 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.

I have nothing better to say than /thread. Besides, how can one declare cultural appropriation without the consent of natives, besides the fact that they might (and, in the case of St Paddy's, often do) take part?

I never said that it's cultural appropriation, read the title and you'll see a question mark. And not that this is a game changer or anything, but I am a quarter irish and also a catholic, so it isn't like St. Patricks Day is isolated from my heritage and religious views
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Postby Benjabobaria » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:43 pm

Glad to see this thread is satire. Of course it's not appropriation!
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Postby Benjabobaria » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Octuagesimo wrote:It's not because the Irish aren't oppressed.

Yeah, Americans hated the Irish for a long time. Good thing those days are in the past!
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:45 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:I mean, think about it. The left considers white people wearing braids or folks having their children dress up as some sort of other cultural icon as Cultural Appropriation, yet when an Irish holiday, may I mention commemerating a saint, is celebrated by non-irish or slightly irish people in USA by drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and then having a one night stand. This seems like a pretty heavy double standard to me.


Is drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and having a one night stand a part of Irish culture?

Drinking themselves silly perhaps, but I wouldn't say partying hard nor having a one night stand are especially irish.


Maybe with a sheep, but I feel the welsh'd know more about that one.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:46 pm

Benjabobaria wrote:Glad to see this thread is satire. Of course it's not appropriation!
Lemme wear green on my birthday dammit

You can wear green every day. It's a great color.
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Postby Avalornia » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:50 pm

Alright, this comes from an Irishmen.
My words exactly: "Oh for fucks sake, another of this bullcrap about liberals thinking if it's 'appropriate' to wear green and crap. Who gives a hoot people got rights if they wanted to wear a beheaded goat for a lap on patties day let em!. Damn bloody liberals are always stirring up trouble. They should focus on winning a damn election next time it comes round, not worrying about stupid crap like this."
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:52 pm

Avalornia wrote:Alright, this comes from an Irishmen.
My words exactly: "Oh for fucks sake, another of this bullcrap about liberals thinking if it's 'appropriate' to wear green and crap. Who gives a hoot people got rights if they wanted to wear a beheaded goat for a lap on patties day let em!. Damn bloody liberals are always stirring up trouble. They should focus on winning a damn election next time it comes round, not worrying about stupid crap like this."
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:54 pm

Avalornia wrote:Alright, this comes from an Irishmen.
My words exactly: "Oh for fucks sake, another of this bullcrap about liberals thinking if it's 'appropriate' to wear green and crap. Who gives a hoot people got rights if they wanted to wear a beheaded goat for a lap on patties day let em!. Damn bloody liberals are always stirring up trouble. They should focus on winning a damn election next time it comes round, not worrying about stupid crap like this."
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Yeah, but the question is is why Libs treat St. Patty's day any differently than other things based on foreign cultures that they call problematic when white people do it
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Is drinking themselves silly, partying hard, and having a one night stand a part of Irish culture?


Engaging in drunkenness and sexual immorality to "celebrate St. Patricks Day" is very sacrilegious and offensive. >:(

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Postby Gagala » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:58 pm

Im someone who is irish Nd actually lives in Ireland and I can confirm we don’t care...

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:59 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:Yeah, but the question is is why Libs treat St. Patty's day any differently than other things based on foreign cultures that they call problematic when white people do it


Well, this part of the growing War on Christianity waged by godless progressives. So of course they are perfectly fine with people disrespecting a Christian holiday.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:09 pm

I'm sure that the price markup on the Guinness, Jameson, and Bailey's takes the sting out of having one's culture appropriated...
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:09 pm

Cultural appropriation only exists for people who believe history starts at colonisation of Africa. And fervently believe in racialism.

So no the Irish are white so they are only aggressors, never victims.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:17 pm

As practiced in America it is. In the UK it is worse.

Yes the Irish drink as is common for Catholics on feast days but the American and British forego the religious and cultural meaning of Saint Patrick's day just destill it into a drunken mimicry of Irish cultural.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:18 pm

Gagala wrote:Im someone who is irish Nd actually lives in Ireland and I can confirm we don’t care...

Y'all just get mad when we do bad impressions of your accent.
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Postby Bombadil » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:22 pm

Gagala wrote:Im someone who is irish Nd actually lives in Ireland and I can confirm we don’t care...


Some do, some don't think that in a modern age the image of Ireland should be drinking, leprechauns and saying 'to be sure, to be sure..'.
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Postby MC United » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:52 pm

Sure and it is, and I say, "Appropriate away!"

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:10 pm

Hey look, NSG continues to not be able to discuss cultural appropriation. Golly.
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