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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

Yes
141
58%
Yes
103
42%
 
Total votes : 244

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Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:07 am


The Left-Wing Discussion Thread
Vol. IV
Oh Hai Marx



So I'll steal Comrade Conscentia's words, and post format, and resources and welcome you all once again to the Left-Wing Discussion Thread (LWDT), where all are welcome to discuss all matters pertaining to the political left. This is a discussion thread about left-wing politics, not a thread exclusively for left-wing people. All are invited to post here, as long as discussion pertains to the topic and complies with the forum rules.

Suggestions for improvements, changes, or additions to the poll and opening post are very welcome.

The previous iteration of the LWDT can be found here.

Relevant subjects for discussion include:

  • The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the political left.
  • Left-wing perspectives on economics and political economy.
  • News and history relevant to the political left.
  • Left-wing responses to current events.
  • Left-wing perspectives on social and economic problems.
  • Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political left.
  • The problems facing particular left-wing movements or the political left in general, and how to resolve them.

Poll History:

”What kind of Leftist are you?”
  • Centrist/Moderate/Third wayer - 279 (13%)
  • Social Liberal - 259 (12%)
  • Social Democrat - 338 (16%)
  • Green Progressive - 188 (9%)
  • Democratic Socialist - 433 (20%)
  • Marxist Communist - 246 (12%)
  • Anarchist Communist - 202 (10%)
  • Other (please state) - 176 (8%)
Total Votes: 2121 (Recorded 28/11/2016)

”What type of leftist are you?”
  • Left-leaning Centrist - 50 (12%)
  • Social Liberal - 57 (14%)
  • Social Democrat - 62 (15%)
  • Democratic Socialist - 80 (19%)
  • Marxist Communist - 59 (14%)
  • Anarchist Communist - 41 (10%)
  • Collectivist Anarchist - 9 (2%)
  • Individualist Anarchist - 10 (2%)
  • Revolutionary Syndicalist - 22 (5%)
  • Other (Please State) - 28 (7%)
Total Votes: 418 (Recorded 26/12/2016)

”What type of leftist are you?”
  • Left-leaning Centrist - 57 (13%)
  • Left/Social Liberal - 51 (12%)
  • Social Democrat - 73 (17%)
  • Democratic Socialist - 78 (18%)
  • Libertarian Marxist - 22 (5%)
  • Other Marxist - 43 (10%)
  • Social Anarchist - 31 (7%)
  • Individualist Anarchist - 13 (3%)
  • Revolutionary Syndicalist - 21 (5%)
  • Other (Please State) - 47 (11%)
Total Votes: 436 (Recorded 05/02/2017)

”Favourite Left-Wing Thinker?”
  • John Rawls - 11 (7%)
  • John Stuart Mill - 12 (8%)
  • Karl Marx - 44 (29%)
  • Max Stirner - 11 (7%)
  • Simone de Beauvoir - 1 (1%)
  • Noam Chomsky - 13 (9%)
  • Peter Kropotkin - 30 (20%)
  • Pierre-Joseph Proudhon - 6 (4%)
  • Slavoj Žižek - 7 (5%)
  • Other (Please State) - 15 (10%)
Total Votes: 150 (Recorded 19/02/2017)

”Favourite Left-Wing Politician?”
  • Bernie Sanders - 25 (17%)
  • Clement Attlee - 9 (6%)
  • Eugene V. Debs - 19 (13%)
  • Franklin D. Roosevelt - 37 (25%)
  • François Mitterand - 1 (1%)
  • Nikita Krushchev - 4 (3%)
  • Nelson Mandela - 21 (14%)
  • Salvador Allende - 8 (5%)
  • Tony Benn - 4 (3%)
  • Other (Please State) - 23 (15%)
Total Votes: 151 (Recorded 14/03/2017)

”Favourite Left-Wing Social Movement/Revolution?”
  • French Revolution, 1789 (France) - 61 (14%)
  • Spring Of Nations, 1848 (Europe) - 34 (8%)
  • October Revolution, 1917 (Russia) - 60 (14%)
  • Spanish Revolution, 1936 (Spain) - 57 (14%)
  • Chinese Communist Revolution, 1946 (China) - 14 (3%)
  • Resistance To Apartheid, 1950 (South Africa) - 24 (6%)
  • Cuban Revolution, 1953 (Cuba) - 19 (5%)
  • Civil Rights Movement, 1954 (USA) - 123 (29%)
  • Occupy Movement, 2011 (International) - 10 (2%)
  • Other (Please State) - 19 (5%)
Total Votes: 421 (Recorded 29/7/2017)

”Preferred economic system?”
  • Welfare Capitalism 92 (23%)
  • Market Socialism 62 (16%)
  • Mutualism 10 (3%)
  • Syndicalism 40 (10%)
  • Communalism 13 (3%)
  • State Planning 36 (9%)
  • Decentralised Planning 27 (7%)
  • Higher Phase Communism 38 (10%)
  • Left-wing Market Anarchism 15 (4%)
  • Other 67 (17%)
Total Votes: 400 (Recorded 05/11/2017)


Left-leaning Centrist
105 13%
Left/Social Liberal
74 9%
Social Democrat
115 14%
Democratic Socialist
139 17%
Marxist Communist
139 17%
Social Anarchist
50 6%
Individualist Anarchist
38 5%
Revolutionary Syndicalist
39 5%
Communalist
27 3%
Other (Please Post)
71 9%
Total votes : 797 (6/3/18)


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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:08 am

suggest some polls conrads
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:08 am

This better be called LWDT IV: Oh Hai, Marx
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 am

Bakery Hill wrote:suggest some polls conrads

Is capitalism good?

Option one: Yes©
Option two: Yes™
Option three: Yes©™
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 am

Please put O Hai Marx in the title so it's not bland af
thanks
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:10 am

New Emeline wrote:This better be called LWDT IV: Oh Hai, Marx

bloody read the third line mate
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:10 am

Cekoviu wrote:Please put O Hai Marx in the title so it's not bland af
thanks

Seconded
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:10 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
New Emeline wrote:This better be called LWDT IV: Oh Hai, Marx

bloody read the third line mate

C'mon, you have to put it in the title!
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:11 am

fuck's sake there's no pleasing anyone these days

bloody hipster cinema reference bullshit
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:11 am

Bakery Hill wrote:fuck's sake there's no pleasing anyone these days

bloody hipster cinema reference bullshit

:(
I don't think The Room is hipster. It's a meme.
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Bakery Hill wrote:fuck's sake there's no pleasing anyone these days

bloody hipster cinema reference bullshit

So sorry for cruelly forcing you to hit a button and type a few letters on your keyboard, I know how hard it can be. :(
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:12 am

You're tearing me APART, Bakery Hill!
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Postby Aillyria » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:12 am

Cekoviu wrote:Please put O Hai Marx in the title so it's not bland af
thanks

Seconded.

What's gonna be the new pole?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:13 am

your ironic internet cosmopolitanism is the bane of my existence, I acquiesce only to serve the people, not out of any desire of my own
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:13 am

Aillyria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Please put O Hai Marx in the title so it's not bland af
thanks

Seconded.

What's gonna be the new pole?

Suggest some.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:13 am

Bakery Hill wrote:your ironic internet cosmopolitanism is the bane of my existence, I acquiesce only to serve the people, not out of any desire of my own

It's just a meme, bro.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:14 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Seconded.

What's gonna be the new pole?

Suggest some.

I guess we could just stick to the "what kind of leftist are you", but that's kinda boring.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:15 am

New Emeline wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Suggest some.

I guess we could just stick to the "what kind of leftist are you", but that's kinda boring.

Nah we need something new and exciting.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:15 am

Aillyria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Please put O Hai Marx in the title so it's not bland af
thanks

Seconded.

What's gonna be the new pole?

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:16 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I guess we could just stick to the "what kind of leftist are you", but that's kinda boring.

Nah we need something new and exciting.

"What is your strangest sexual fetish?"
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Postby Jackania yugo » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:16 am

What is the best type of leftism?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:17 am

Jackania yugo wrote:What is the best type of leftism?

Fully automated luxury gay space social democracy
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:17 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:What is the best type of leftism?

Fully automated luxury gay space social democracy

Indeed, comrade!
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:18 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:What is the best type of leftism?

Fully automated luxury gay space social democracy Anarcho-Communism NazBol

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:18 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Nah we need something new and exciting.

"What is your strangest sexual fetish?"

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