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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:11 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The cost of transporting those metals outweighs their value by many, many times.

With current technology and infrastructure. That can change.

No, the problem is not really the technology, but the materials and energy sources. We would have to come up with materials and energy sources that are staggeringly more sophisticated and efficient than the ones we have today, on an almost fantastic, "perpetual motion machine," bending the Second Law of Thermodynamics level. And if we did, we wouldn't really need to mine the solar system.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:21 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Senkaku wrote:With current technology and infrastructure. That can change.

No, the problem is not really the technology, but the materials and energy sources. We would have to come up with materials and energy sources that are staggeringly more sophisticated and efficient than the ones we have today, on an almost fantastic, "perpetual motion machine," bending the Second Law of Thermodynamics level. And if we did, we wouldn't really need to mine the solar system.


I mean, not really.

Build a means to create rockets on the moon and the amount of material needed to build them and the amount of fuel required is reduced. If you're not expecting to break Earth's gravity well, then a rocket becomes massively simpler to make. There's also other means being worked on for alternative fuel sources or making rockets more efficient, my favorite one is riding the shockwave of a nuclear bomb in space because that is literally the most badass thing ever, and that alone can get us to a fraction of the speed of light. Which, you know, is fast.
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Postby Claorica » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:23 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Why not? They can consent to a sex change, no?

Isn't that up to the parents until a certain age though?


Considering Parents have had their children removed for refusing to assent to a sex change/hormone treatment, no, apparently it is not.
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Postby TulkJames » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:29 pm

To launch a crew from the Moon could also be achieved by propulsion from a large 'rail gun,' as considered already by notable space industries. Another fuel type is xenon gas, which is reasonably light. It would be expelled in an ionised form, and would propel a craft with low thrust, but high specific impulse.

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Postby Vegvarak » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:41 pm

TulkJames wrote:To launch a crew from the Moon could also be achieved by propulsion from a large 'rail gun,' as considered already by notable space industries.


This is an interesting idea. I imagine though that the railgun would need to be absolutely huge though, otherwise the acceleration would kill the crew?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:09 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:We never will. Post-scarcity is a fantasy. Humanity is too full of assholes and pricks who have been digging for shit for the beginning of time. They aren’t going to stop just because people might have everything.

If some unpleasant people want to operate a mine in a post-scarcity future I don't think anyone else would stop them.

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:11 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Senkaku wrote:With current technology and infrastructure. That can change.

No, the problem is not really the technology, but the materials and energy sources. We would have to come up with materials and energy sources that are staggeringly more sophisticated and efficient than the ones we have today, on an almost fantastic, "perpetual motion machine," bending the Second Law of Thermodynamics level. And if we did, we wouldn't really need to mine the solar system.

I mean, you just don't know what you're talking about. Space elevators and nuclear lightbulbs are advanced, but they're not staggeringly so (especially in regards to space elevators- materials science continues to make strides that have great implications for construction of future elevators), and simpler concepts like Project Orion, laser sails, and lunar mass drivers are well within our technical capabilities. Deep space drives like VASIMR or other types of ion drive are already realities, as are solar sails. Even using chemical rockets to lift initial infrastructure out of Earth's gravity well, we have the capacity to do quite a lot- Saturn Vs may be massive and expensive, but you can do a lot with a payload of that size.
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Postby Zyr and Pony » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:14 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Senkaku wrote:With current technology and infrastructure. That can change.

No, the problem is not really the technology, but the materials and energy sources. We would have to come up with materials and energy sources that are staggeringly more sophisticated and efficient than the ones we have today, on an almost fantastic, "perpetual motion machine," bending the Second Law of Thermodynamics level. And if we did, we wouldn't really need to mine the solar system.

New materials and energy sources aren't new technology?
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Postby Martinjoe00 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:30 pm

Wikipedia is a credible platform which contains information on a vast range of well-researched topic. Today many businesses are using Wikipedia as a marketing strategy and create a Wikipedia page for their business with the help of expert Wikipedia editors for hire in the field. The five trait of every professional Wikipedia editor are:
• The account: Credibility of Wikipedia account is gained through providing authentic information when creating an account. Your job as an editor does not end at creating an account. You need to establish a good record in the Wikipedia community with a few good and credible edits to prove yourself as a reputed and reliable editor.
• Research: every professional Wikipedia writer is well-versed in research. You must go through a thorough research page to write credible information for the platform.
• Collect proper resources: Wikipedia being an encyclopedia needs proof and evidences for every claim and statement included in the article. This is why it is necessary for the editor to collect authentic information from Wikipedia approved credible sources for their article before they start with the development of content.
• Simplicity: using simple words, easy vocabulary and unbiased tone in a necessity to create a Wikipedia page.
• Proofread: to eliminate any possible error and grammatical mistake in the article.
Do you think there are any other qualities of a Wikipedia editor?

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Postby Springfeal » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:59 pm

Emission control systems will be implanted in our noses and butts to reduce our bodily greenhouse gas emissions.

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