Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Estanglia]

Why should I have to move somewhere to receive decent treatment?

I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.

I would like to remind you that there are varying degrees of oppression. Leaping to 'you're not the most oppressed, therefore you're not oppressed' isn't a great argument.

Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.

How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?

That argument could be made for a lot of oppressive laws, that it's just the majority doing something that the minority disagrees with.

The majority can be wrong, y'know.

Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him

See the above point.

I wonder how many fans of Jim Crow used the same argument. It's not about opinion, it's about his constitutional rights being thwarted.

Yes how dare the legislature do what it was voted in to do.

Restrict constitutional rights?

By the way, by attempting to disprove that Telconi's oppressed, you have actually provided arguments that could be used to justify oppression.

We have to demonstrate how cultural suppression is relevant to the thread about "Diversity and Multiculturalism"?

How is your culture being suppressed because you can’t by any gun you want somehow your oppressed people like the Royhinga or Karen peoples?

Can you stop with the leaping to the extreme? Seriously, every time Telconi mentions oppression you leap to the most extreme examples of oppression as if it's somehow an argument against Telconi being oppressed.

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

Ors didn't say that.

Actually he does.



Militia = all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service. / a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army. / a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

Arms = weapons and ammunition; armaments. "arms exports"synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

Infringed = act so as to limit or undermine (something)

Any and all gun control is strictly unconstitutional. Useful perhaps in certain scenarios. But a violation of human rights no matter the circumstances.

This is not a gun debate. His rights are not being violated in any way. He’s not of the Royhinga or Karen people’s

I thought you were big on multiculturalism and shit. Why are you okay with the majority suppressing the culture of the minority?

He is not being suppressed

Stop leaping to the extremes.

The right to bear arms is a right, guy.

It’s not a unlimited right nor is this a gun debate

Your right to wear clothes isn't an unlimited right. Therefore, banning the hijab is not cultural suppression, even if it's integral to your culture.

... Because it's a part of his culture? Just like (In certain) Suicide, Rape, Murder, Theft, Blood Rituals, The only difference is that guns is considered a right in the US

By suppressing guns, you are suppressing his cultural values. Just in the same way suppressing languages/religions is suppressing their cultural values.

So we ought to allow all guns beacause a minority sees it as a culture. If someone of the Karen group heard not being able to buy guns is oppression they would be deeply offended

Please stop leaping to the extremes.

We allow people wearing Hijab because a minority sees it as a culture. We actually allow people to dress up in literal garbage bags that they can hide anything under for that, despite the fact any person wearing Hijab is naturally being forced to do so (either by religion or family). Why not allow another minority from owning guns? Because you don't like it?

a Hijab and a gun are not the same thing.

They are quite similar in this respect.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

https://immigrationreform.com/2016/09/2 ... tegration/:

"Assimilation is generally defined as adopting the ways of another culture and fully becoming part of a different society. Whereas integration is typically defined as incorporating individuals from different groups into a society as equals. The difference is subtle but significant."

"By contrast, integration suggests boundaries. It is defined in terms of equality. But in this context equality indicates that a host is obligated to embrace foreign cultures as equal, even when they conflict with the values and traditions of the host."

Would it be fair to say the US and Canada does a combination of both?

Not really imo.

[San Lumen]

Would it be fair to say the US and Canada does a combination of both?

Not really imo.

What does the US do then? it seems like a combo to me

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Not really imo.

What does the US do then? it seems like a combo to me

I guess you could call it a combo. Like I said, in my opinion it's 1 or the other.

[San Lumen]

What does the US do then? it seems like a combo to me

I guess you could call it a combo. Like I said, in my opinion it's 1 or the other.

it could be argued Canada is a combo too.