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[DRAFT] Prohibition On Sodium Fluoroacetate Pesticide

Postby New United Aotearoa » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:52 am

Category: Environment
Industry: Agriculture

The World Assembly,

APPLAUDING previous efforts at environmental protection,

RECOGNIZING that in many member nations landowners and government agencies have a need to control or eradicate large populations of freely moving invasive species,

CONCERNED of the effects that Sodium Fluoroacetate, commonly known by the trade name 1080, could have on the environment and the inhabitants of member nations, such as contamination of waterways, soil, and groundwater, as well as unintended harm to non-target organisms,

UNDERSTANDING that, like all pollution, pesticide run-off does not respect landowner or jurisdictional boundaries,

HEREBY

1. Prohibits the manufacture of Sodium Fluoroacetate and use of Sodium Fluoroacetate in WA Member Nations as a pesticide,

2. Limits the total concentration of Sodium Fluoroacetate in publicly available pesticides to 15mg/kg of pelletized or other solid applications and 15mg/l of liquid, gel, or aerosol applications,

3. Defines Sodium Fluoroacetate as a chemical with the composition FCH2CO2Na,

4. Encourages members to reconsider the usage of any non-targeted pesticide in favor of other population control methods, such as trapping or hunting, in an effort to create employment opportunities, create a supply for natural fur, and control invasive species,

5. Reaffirms that the usage of Sodium Fluoroacetate as a chemical weapon does not fall under the domain of this resolution.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:25 am

No.

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Postby He Qixin 2 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:28 am

Oh heck no. I understand your point here, but do you know that this resolution can actually damage the agricultural sector? IC-ly, Triangle and Squarean is a nation whose economy depends on agriculture a lot. Please don't hurt it.
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Postby New United Aotearoa » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:38 am

He Qixin 2 wrote:Oh heck no. I understand your point here, but do you know that this resolution can actually damage the agricultural sector?


I understand your reservations, but this would not ban pesticides, simply the use of an extremely toxic and non-targeted pesticide. There would still be other options that have a lowered toxicity to humans and domesticated animals. In fact, Sodium Fluoroacetate is just as dangerous to livestock as it is to wildlife, meaning that utilizing it in agricultural applications could result in the loss of part or all of a domestic herd.

OOC: 1080 is only used in remote locations to control rodents. It is currently primarily used in New Zealand (they consume over 80% of the worlds 1080) and it is a hugely controversial toxin. Farmers here want in banned ASAP.

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Postby New United Aotearoa » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:40 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:No.


Can I ask why you would be opposed to this legislation? If you have anything specific I would appreciate the critique.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:42 am

the trade name 1080

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Postby He Qixin 2 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:54 am

New United Aotearoa wrote:
I understand your reservations, but this would not ban pesticides, simply the use of an extremely toxic and non-targeted pesticide. There would still be other options that have a lowered toxicity to humans and domesticated animals. In fact, Sodium Fluoroacetate is just as dangerous to livestock as it is to wildlife, meaning that utilizing it in agricultural applications could result in the loss of part or all of a domestic herd.

Dude, thanks so much for your clarifications. I don't want my third nation's agricultural sector and then the economy be hurt very badly. :)
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Postby Kenmoria » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 am

"I would put the defining clause at the start of the active clauses, so the word is defined before it is used."
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Postby Essu Beti » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:09 am

“Against,” says Inan. “This is far too specific for international legislation.”
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:47 pm

Encourages members to reconsider the usage of any non-targeted pesticide in favor of other population control methods, such as trapping or hunting, in an effort to create employment opportunities, create a supply for natural fur, and control invasive species,

I am unsure of your nation, but there is not a big market for rat fur anywhere in my country.
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Postby Kenmoria » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:49 pm

"The Kenmorian delegation is opposed to this proposal as it is too specific and could therefore impede a more general approach."
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Postby Matoran universe » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:15 pm

why not instead put labels on products saying that they use pesticides instead of banning them?

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:39 pm

Matoran universe wrote:why not instead put labels on products saying that they use pesticides instead of banning them?

Because screaming "BAN IT!!!" is more fun, apparently.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:07 pm

"And exactly what are you trying to do, beyond banning a single chemical, that the resolution GA #376, Pesticide Regulations doesn't already do?"

OOC: Also, if for some reason you think that international law is needed to deal with a single chemical, wouldn't it mean that the chemical was so horrible that all sensible nations had already banned it? And if not, then why should they do it now? You say that it contaminates the groundwater and whatnot, but don't say what it actually does to be so bad that you want to ban it.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:18 pm

Wikipedia says that the pesticide doesn't really kill insects. It also says that it's practically non-toxic to fish. But rather, that the main pest that this thing is used to kill are mammalian ones, like possums, rats, etc.

(And widely used in Oceania to kill invasive rabbits.)
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Postby American Eastern States » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:35 pm

AES Representatives Steven Mallard and Andrew Borne glance at each other, expecting the other to stand and state the opinion.

"You're the Environment nut, you do it." grumbles Mallard.

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The old Mallard slowly stood up, taking in a breath of air. "First and foremost, we would need to develop a research team to test and confirm which pesticides are safer for use, which may costs millions in funding. Secondly, like mentioned before, this could be harmful to our agricultural center. If you wish to ban such pesticides, than you should decide as an individual nation."

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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:51 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Wikipedia says that the pesticide doesn't really kill insects. It also says that it's practically non-toxic to fish. But rather, that the main pest that this thing is used to kill are mammalian ones, like possums, rats, etc.

(And widely used in Oceania to kill invasive rabbits.)

That makes this resolution even more useless than before. It's like the WA placing a ban on knives, and then one person submitting an idea to ban and discourage the use of a 44mm knife with a steel edge. Whilst there are differences in the amount of duplication. This proposal is still far too micromanaging and specific.
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