Man disarms terrorist gunman, shot by cops as result.

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/iden ... n-released

"The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee. "After some additional investigation, they've learned that the man that the gun may have taken the firearm away from the original suspect in the call. The man who originally had the gun has been taken into custody."

Also, News reporter barbie.

Welp. ...

Here's an interesting intersection of issues. I think it highlights that the whole "Good guy with as gun" shit doesn't necessarily work out even in circumstances where they successfully disarm a shooter, because of that OTHER armed violence problem the US has, trigger happy cops. Though here, to be entirely fair, they do have good reason to be trigger happy about someone having a gun in an active shooter area, which... guys... that's the point. You either have to turn the US into a wild west anarchy where calling the cops isn't done and everyone just shoots problems, or you have to tell cops to risk their lives trying to ascertain if a shooter is a good guy with a gun or not (pssst. institutional racism. What? Who said that, who-) which means dead cops or just them laughing at you and carrying on as normal, shooting good guys with guns, or you have to admit that...

this was a fucking terrible idea, and maybe gun control might be better.
are there alternatives i'm missing?

[Likar]

Gun control is needed particularly for minors. This can help in the future, prevent another terrifying school shooting. It should be needed in states that 1. Have little to no control and 2. Have the most guns

[Datlofff]

http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/identity-of-suspect-new-details-on-shooting-at-faith-city-mission-released

"The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee. "After some additional investigation, they've learned that the man that the gun may have taken the firearm away from the original suspect in the call. The man who originally had the gun has been taken into custody."

Also, News reporter barbie.

Welp. ...

Here's an interesting intersection of issues. I think it highlights that the whole "Good guy with as gun" shit doesn't necessarily work out even in circumstances where they successfully disarm a shooter, because of that OTHER armed violence problem the US has, trigger happy cops. Though here, to be entirely fair, they do have good reason to be trigger happy about someone having a gun in an active shooter area, which... guys... that's the point. You either have to turn the US into a wild west anarchy where calling the cops isn't done and everyone just shoots problems, or you have to tell cops to risk their lives trying to ascertain if a shooter is a good guy with a gun or not (pssst. institutional racism. What? Who said that, who-) which means dead cops or just them laughing at you and carrying on as normal, shooting good guys with guns, or you have to admit that...

this was a fucking terrible idea, and maybe gun control might be better.
are there alternatives i'm missing?

The problem has nothing to do with gun control or trigger happy cops, this is entirely just a isolated issue, the cops simply mistook the man for the shooter, as no one knew who exactly the shooter was, we also don't even have information on what the man who took the gun was doing at the time he was shot.

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/identity-of-suspect-new-details-on-shooting-at-faith-city-mission-released




Also, News reporter barbie.

Welp. ...

Here's an interesting intersection of issues. I think it highlights that the whole "Good guy with as gun" shit doesn't necessarily work out even in circumstances where they successfully disarm a shooter, because of that OTHER armed violence problem the US has, trigger happy cops. Though here, to be entirely fair, they do have good reason to be trigger happy about someone having a gun in an active shooter area, which... guys... that's the point. You either have to turn the US into a wild west anarchy where calling the cops isn't done and everyone just shoots problems, or you have to tell cops to risk their lives trying to ascertain if a shooter is a good guy with a gun or not (pssst. institutional racism. What? Who said that, who-) which means dead cops or just them laughing at you and carrying on as normal, shooting good guys with guns, or you have to admit that...

this was a fucking terrible idea, and maybe gun control might be better.
are there alternatives i'm missing?

The problem has nothing to do with gun control or trigger happy cops, this is entirely just a isolated issue, the cops simply mistook the man for the shooter, as no one knew who exactly the shooter was, we also don't even have information on what the man who took the gun was doing at the time he was shot.

...
Right. They mistook a man with a gun out in an active shooter area, for the shooter.
How do you propose we stop that kind of thing occuring while simultaneously relying on "Good guys with guns"?

[Treadwellia]

"The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee.

Yay for passive voice being used to try to take the heat off the officers in question. It wasn't the police! The shots did the striking!

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"Militarized cops are a good idea" "Terrorism can be stopped with a good guy with a gun" "We don't need gun control"

Pick two Republicans. You can't have all three. This incident is proof.

On another note, at least he isn't dead.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Sounds right

[VoVoDoCo]

"The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee.

Yay for passive voice being used to try to take the heat off the officers in question. It wasn't the police! The shots did the striking!

That sentence did reek of disassociation didn't it?

[Ifreann]

I was going to say something about this story, then I saw that it happened in Amarillo and now my brain is full of IS THIS THE WAY TO AMARILLO?

[Firaxin]

The reason this happened wasn't because of trigger happy cops. The man made a poor decision. Instead of emptying the gun and getting rid of it he kept it on his person. They teach not to take the gun in elementary school, for Christ sake.

So the cops mistook him for the shooter. Human mistake.

[Great Nepal]

Maybe "good guys with guns" should get some sort of tattoo identifying themselves as one of the "good guys", so that cops can identify whether someone holding and potentially using a gun during live shooting situation is the shooter or not?

[Ifreann]

They teach not to take the gun in elementary school, for Christ sake.

To the rest of the world, shit like this makes America sound insane.

[Fausenheldt]

What I'm inferring from this is that the shooter was disarmed successfully, but the cops got the wrong guy and shot the innocent person?

If that's the case, the department that employs the officer that shot the man should pay for the man's medical bills, and the officer should be put on leave. As for the victim, I wish him a speedy recovery.

[Vassenor]

http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/identity-of-suspect-new-details-on-shooting-at-faith-city-mission-released




Also, News reporter barbie.

Welp. ...

Here's an interesting intersection of issues. I think it highlights that the whole "Good guy with as gun" shit doesn't necessarily work out even in circumstances where they successfully disarm a shooter, because of that OTHER armed violence problem the US has, trigger happy cops. Though here, to be entirely fair, they do have good reason to be trigger happy about someone having a gun in an active shooter area, which... guys... that's the point. You either have to turn the US into a wild west anarchy where calling the cops isn't done and everyone just shoots problems, or you have to tell cops to risk their lives trying to ascertain if a shooter is a good guy with a gun or not (pssst. institutional racism. What? Who said that, who-) which means dead cops or just them laughing at you and carrying on as normal, shooting good guys with guns, or you have to admit that...

this was a fucking terrible idea, and maybe gun control might be better.
are there alternatives i'm missing?

The problem has nothing to do with gun control or trigger happy cops, this is entirely just a isolated issue, the cops simply mistook the man for the shooter, as no one knew who exactly the shooter was, we also don't even have information on what the man who took the gun was doing at the time he was shot.

Which is the problem with the "good guy with a gun" myth. When the cops show up to a report of a shooter, they're not going to have time to ask questions. They're going to go in, neutralise anyone with a gun then figure it out.

[Rojava Free State]

Tragedy. Police made a mistake

[Sovaal]

Yah I honestly don’t see gun cotnol getting anywhere close to working in the US. Since 1898 over three hundred million firearms have been sold. They’re not going to magically all disappear.

[Grand Britannia]

"You dont need guns, cops will protect you"

They sure will.

[Fartsniffage]

Yah I honestly don’t see gun cotnol getting anywhere close to working in the US. Since 1898 over three hundred million firearms have been sold. They’re not going to magically all disappear.

What you need is a giant electromagnet and a space station. We already have a space station so we're half way there.

[Kramanica]

"Militarized cops are a good idea" "Terrorism can be stopped with a good guy with a gun" "We don't need gun control"

Pick two Republicans. You can't have all three. This incident is proof.

On another note, at least he isn't dead.

He didn't have a gun. He disarmed the guy and took his gun.

[Kramanica]

"W-who needs guns? Just wait for the cops."

[Sovaal]

Yah I honestly don’t see gun cotnol getting anywhere close to working in the US. Since 1898 over three hundred million firearms have been sold. They’re not going to magically all disappear.

What you need is a giant electromagnet and a space station. We already have a space station so we're half way there.

K

[Cetacea]

The reason this happened wasn't because of trigger happy cops. The man made a poor decision. Instead of emptying the gun and getting rid of it he kept it on his person. They teach not to take the gun in elementary school, for Christ sake..

damn, when I was at elementary school they taught us to glue painted macaroni to paper!
do American kids really get taught how to empty out the bullets and dispose of the weapon before the Police Man gets you?

no wonder kids need counselling

[Risottia]

"Militarized cops are a good idea"

The bulk of law enforcement in Italy is provided by the Carabinieri, a branch of the Italian military. Italy doesn't have, even remotely, the same level of trigger-happiness among the police forces the US do.

I guess the problem isn't militarised police. It's American police.

[Firaxin]

The reason this happened wasn't because of trigger happy cops. The man made a poor decision. Instead of emptying the gun and getting rid of it he kept it on his person. They teach not to take the gun in elementary school, for Christ sake..

damn, when I was at elementary school they taught us to glue painted macaroni to paperr!
do American kids really get taught how to empty out the bullets and dispose of weapons before the Police Man gets you?

no wonder kids need counselling

No, it's more like if you beat the bad guy down, (with chairs or books) don't attempt to grab his weapon. If you have to, slide it across the room and put something on top of it.

[The South Falls]

That man is a fucking hero and deserves the Jon St. John award of patriotism and badassery.

It should be called the Rambominator Award for Badassery.

"You dont need guns, cops will protect you"

They sure will.

The Cops suck. But, they are trained with guns. Unlike your average 30-50 yo teacher, who probably isn't trained with a gun. Hmm...