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They Finally Did It: USCIS Removes "A Nation of Immigrants"

Postby Dahon » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:05 am

I just happened to think this merits its own thread, because yeah, USCIS' revised mission statement is the capstone of present and future immigration policies -- from an inclusive amd pluralistic approach to welcoming legal immigrants to a -- shall I say -- more exclusive one, even xenophobic one, reflecting the Trump administration's desire to exclude people from "shithole" countries (we already know this admin hates illegals and chain migrants, but did anyone expect further escalation? everyone? OK, everyone). As noted below (with original and revised mission statements bolded and underlined for the benefit of everyone):

LOS ANGELES — The federal agency that issues green cards and grants citizenship to people from foreign countries has stopped characterizing the United States as “a nation of immigrants.”

The director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services informed employees in a letter on Thursday that its mission statement had been revised to “guide us in the years ahead.” Gone was the phrase that described the agency as securing “America’s promise as a nation of immigrants.”

The original mission statement said: “U.S.C.I.S. secures America’s promise as a nation of immigrants by providing accurate and useful information to our customers, granting immigration and citizenship benefits, promoting an awareness and understanding of citizenship, and ensuring the integrity of our immigration system.”

The new version says: “U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services administers the nation’s lawful immigration system, safeguarding its integrity and promise by efficiently and fairly adjudicating requests for immigration benefits while protecting Americans, securing the homeland and honoring our values.”

The agency director, L. Francis Cissna, who was appointed by the Trump administration, described the revision as a “simple, straightforward statement” that “clearly defines the agency’s role in our country’s lawful immigration system and the commitment we have to the American people.”

Mr. Cissna did not mention in his letter that he had removed the phrase “nation of immigrants,” which was popularized by a book by President John F. Kennedy and is frequently used to convey America’s multiculturalism.

However, Mr. Cissna did note that he had eliminated the word “customers” in describing the foreign nationals whom the agency serves, “a reminder that we are always working for the American people.”

León Rodríguez, director of the agency from 2014 to 2017, said the revision of the mission statement marked “a particularly sad turn of history.”

“We should not forget that under the discarded mission statement, the integrity and national security functions of U.S.C.I.S. grew — dramatically so — showing that we could be both a welcoming nation and a safe one,” Mr. Rodríguez said. “We should stop to reflect about the many opportunities that America will lose because of the attitudes reflected in this statement, and ask ourselves whether this is really the country we want to be.”

Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors restricting immigration, applauded the change.

“A nation of immigrants isn’t a mission statement,” he said, “it’s a slogan.”

“The biggest problem with our immigration system is that it lacks a clear national interest objective,” he added.

As director of U.S.C.I.S., Mr. Cissna has promoted an agenda that reflects the Trump administration’s skeptical and often hard-line stance on immigration. The agency has increased scrutiny of visa applications for foreign workers whom American companies seek to hire; it has changed the asylum application process to discourage people from seeking safe haven in the United States; and it has added steps to the process for foreigners already in the country to obtain legal permanent residency, or a green card.

U.S.C.I.S. reviews petitions of foreign nationals who seek to visit, work, reside and find refuge in the United States. It also processes citizenship applications, which have surged since President Trump won the election in 2016.

In his letter to his staff, Mr. Cissna wrote, “We are also responsible for ensuring that those who naturalize are dedicated to this country, share our values, assimilate into our communities, and understand their responsibility to help preserve our freedom and liberty.”

Published posthumously, Kennedy’s “A Nation of Immigrants” highlighted the contribution of immigrants when the country was engulfed in a debate over the direction of its immigration policy.

The phrase appears at least as far back as 1874, in an editorial published in The Daily State Journal of Alexandria, which praised a bill passed by the Virginia Senate appropriating $15,000 to encourage European immigration. “We are a nation of immigrants and immigrants’ children,” it said.

Immigrant advocates today invoke the phrase to remind the country that most Americans have an ancestor who was once a newcomer to the United States.


A question or two about Mr. Mehlman's point about his country's immigration system not having "a clear national interest objective": should it have a clearly defined one? What is "a clear national interest objective"? If excluding malcontents and allowing everyone else in is not "a clear national interest objective", then what is? Allowing only immigrants from certain countries (as in the "good old days" Trump himself as hankered for vocally)? Allowing only immigrants of a particular elevated socioeconomic status (not "good old days" at all, but certainly up Trump's alley)? What?

So anyway, NSG, particularly the Americans and the immigrants to America here: so what do you think?

Here are some links for your further perusal, reflecting the liberal and conservative viewpoints concerning immigration to the United States (no Fox News as of yet -- picture my totally existent shock):

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/u ... rants.html
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... rops-nati/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... uscis-says
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/uscis ... le/2649813
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:08 am

“Nation of invaders” would be more accurate

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:17 am

So when will the country be returned to the native americans ?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:34 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So when will the country be returned to the native americans ?


It's not their land any more. God said so.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:43 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:sO wHeN wIlL tHe CoUnTrY bE rEtUrNeD tO nAtIvE aMeRiCaNs?

well he's not wrong.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:46 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:sO wHeN wIlL tHe CoUnTrY bE rEtUrNeD tO nAtIvE aMeRiCaNs?

well he's not wrong.

It's just a tiresome gotcha that doesn't appear to have any direct relevancy to the topic. I'm not really a closed borders guy, but responding to "we need to increase border security" with the above is not a good argument, just a zinger shutdown tactic.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:So when will the country be returned to the native americans ?


It's not their land any more. God said so.


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Postby Kanadorika » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:53 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So when will the country be returned to the native americans ?

When they can win a war.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:54 am

Kanadorika wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:So when will the country be returned to the native americans ?

When they can win a war.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize winning a war gave you right over someone else's lands. does that apply in every case, or is it just when it helps your agenda?
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Postby Kanadorika » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Kanadorika wrote:When they can win a war.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize winning a war gave you right over someone else's lands. does that apply in every case, or is it just when it helps your agenda?

I'm sorry, but did you sleep through history class? According to almost every civilization ever, if you get conquered, you lose the land until you can fight and regain it.
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Postby Hirota » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:58 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So when will the country be returned to the native americans Anglo-Saxons ?

And all of a sudden you sound like UKIP.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:02 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Kanadorika wrote:When they can win a war.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize winning a war gave you right over someone else's lands. does that apply in every case, or is it just when it helps your agenda?


Ask the Cree who owned what before and I'm sure you'll hear a sob story about that too. Searching for that sort of justice is a bad meme. Best to make sure it doesn't happen to you.

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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:sO wHeN wIlL tHe CoUnTrY bE rEtUrNeD tO nAtIvE aMeRiCaNs?


aNd WhEn WiLl ThEy GiVe It BaCk To ThE dInOsAuRs?

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:54 am

Pilarcraft wrote:I'm sorry, I didn't realize winning a war gave you right over someone else's lands. does that apply in every case, or is it just when it helps your agenda?


The only way anybody owns any amount of land is the ability to stand on it and tell some other motherfucker they can't. Just about every border in the modern world is the way it is because somebody who was good at violence got into it with someone who wasn't.
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Kanadorika wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:I'm sorry, I didn't realize winning a war gave you right over someone else's lands. does that apply in every case, or is it just when it helps your agenda?

I'm sorry, but did you sleep through history class? According to almost every civilization ever, if you get conquered, you lose the land until you can fight and regain it.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:09 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
It's not their land any more. God said so.


God was not born in America. His opinion is irrelevant.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:26 am

To those who feel the need to "decolonise" that is to say re-establish isolationist ethnostates, I'd advise them to be the change they want to see in the world. Give your property and goods back to the traditional owners, move back to Europe and begin paying reparations to them out of every paycheck. Surely if you don't want to do this, you're a fairweather ally.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:11 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
It's not their land any more. God said so.


God was not born in America. His opinion is irrelevant.


And yet "God said this is ours" was pretty much the justification for just about everything the Europeans did to the natives in the Americas.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:20 am

The US is still a nation of immigrants. 99.9~% of the population have foreign ancestry and 46 million were born outside of the US. The US is also the only industrialized nation in the world that accepts the poor en mass. All other wealthy nations require either wealth, a degree in an in demand field, marriage, or refugee status for citizenship.

I'm not right wing. I dislike trump. I dislike our immigration policy. However any non American who criticize it needs to look into a mirror. Very few of you should be talking.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:27 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:The US is still a nation of immigrants. 99.9~% of the population have foreign ancestry and 46 million were born outside of the US. The US is also the only industrialized nation in the world that accepts the poor en mass. All other wealthy nations require either wealth, a degree in an in demand field, marriage, or refugee status for citizenship.

I'm not right wing. I dislike trump. I dislike our immigration policy. However any non American who criticize it needs to look into a mirror. Very few of you should be talking.


I'm not looking to move to the USA any time soon, except if Duterte becomes dictator or if the Chinese invade. That doesn't mean I can't criticize American immigration policy, especially in relation to how Trump is setting it back to at least before Kennedy and Johnson, when the last vestiges of exclusionary policy by nationality (fueled by "racial" prejudice and fear of cheap labor) were repealed and replaced.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:27 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:All other wealthy nations require either wealth, a degree in an in demand field, marriage, or refugee status for citizenship.


Have you looked into what you need to get a Green Card? Because you pretty much have to be one of those as well.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:51 am

that's fine, US immigration policy is still leaps and bounds better then just about every other nations on earth.

Also no, you might want to actually read into it instead of a cursory search. The US has a "queue" to get in. It may be a long queue but at least it exists. Try immigrating to Switzerland instead if you want xD
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:53 am

It's a good change, the government works for its citizens.

While I am for a somewhat freer immigration policy than the current administration, the government works for the citizens, and all government policy should reflect that.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:03 am

Ethel mermania wrote:It's a good change, the government works for its citizens.

While I am for a somewhat freer immigration policy than the current administration, the government works for the citizens, and all government policy should reflect that.


Somebody define what "government works for its citizens" means in the context of immigration. Does it mean excluding all but the well-heeled, the specialist, and/or whoever could be press-ganged into working low-skilled and/or low-paid jobs in undermanned labor-intensive industries?
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