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Female officers on stop-and-frisk/TSA duty?

Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:56 pm

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So this thread's tangent was about how a woman grabbing a man's chest isn't as likely to be considered sexual harassment as the reverse. That's just my default assumption, based partly on hearsay from people I went to school with, but also on the pattern in which sex crimes are more likely to be considered endearing when committed by female perpetrators as a whole.

I'm kind of left wondering, now, how much complaints about the TSA and/or stop-and-frisk (assuming it's been continued in other places since being scrapped in New York) would be reduced if the people carrying them out happened to be female. Females searched would be less likely to interpret this as sexual, and males who did interpret it that way would probably be less likely to be offended. I've no doubt the usual "they're just doing this to get black people on drug use" concerns would still apply, so there would still be some minimum baseline of complaints. However, the rate of complaints; and the reactions of others to those complaints; could serve as a way to both test our theory of male and female reactions to this, and if they're true, make these things less unpleasant for everyone involved.

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Postby Katganistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm

I have been patted down by the TSA pretty much every time I go to the airport.

It has ALWAYS been a female officer as I am female and they feel it is less intrusive.

It is STILL intrusive.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:07 pm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:08 pm

TSA should be entirely removed tbh
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Postby Vovodoco » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

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Though me personally, I wouldn't be offended no matter the gender of the agent.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:36 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

It's a reaction to 9/11.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

It's a reaction to 9/11.


An overly invasive, ineffective, theatrical reaction to 9/11, sure.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

It's a reaction to 9/11.


A useless reaction. DHS, TSA and all that other nonsense is just meaningless security theater.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's a reaction to 9/11.


A useless reaction. DHS, TSA and all that other nonsense is just meaningless security theater.

It just means anyone who calls for abolishing it will be immediately painted as Soft On Terrorism.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

I really wish more politicians said this.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

It's a reaction to 9/11.

That does nothing but provide theater.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A useless reaction. DHS, TSA and all that other nonsense is just meaningless security theater.

It just means anyone who calls for abolishing it will be immediately painted as Soft On Terrorism.

You mean like how anyone who calls for Criminal Justice reform is painted as Soft On Crime?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It just means anyone who calls for abolishing it will be immediately painted as Soft On Terrorism.

You mean like how anyone who calls for Criminal Justice reform is painted as Soft On Crime?
The name-callers are idiots.

And it has a disturbing habit of working.
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Postby Topoliani » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:54 pm

TBH, I don't think the TSA is that intrusive.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:56 pm

Topoliani wrote:TBH, I don't think the TSA is that intrusive.


You ever walked through their xray machines wearing a chastity device?

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:23 pm

TSA generally requires pat downs to be done by members of the same sex. With a time limit requiring pat down be waived if they can not get a member of the same sex absent probable cause.
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Postby Kubra » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:26 pm

Topoliani wrote:TBH, I don't think the TSA is that intrusive.
I mean they're certainly less pleasant to pass through than other transit authorities, simply in terms of demeanor.
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Postby Mushet » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Men's chests aren't sexualized to nearly the degree women's are, I wouldn't usually consider such things to be sexual.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:38 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:TSA should be entirely removed tbh

I really wish more politicians said this.


Then they face being looked at as "soft." Damn shame.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:53 pm

Topoliani wrote:TBH, I don't think the TSA is that intrusive.

Have you dealt with them repeatedly, then?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Topoliani wrote:TBH, I don't think the TSA is that intrusive.

Have you dealt with them repeatedly, then?


My favorite story of my mom, to this day, is when we were at the TSA being heckled over my sister's inhaler for her severe asthma when Rosie O'Donnell legitimately showed up out of nowhere and told off the TSA agent fucking angrily as hell before buying us lunch. Everyone I know hates the TSA, even a frequently ridiculed celebrity. :p
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:29 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Have you dealt with them repeatedly, then?


My favorite story of my mom, to this day, is when we were at the TSA being heckled over my sister's inhaler for her severe asthma when Rosie O'Donnell legitimately showed up out of nowhere and told off the TSA agent fucking angrily as hell before buying us lunch. Everyone I know hates the TSA, even a frequently ridiculed celebrity. :p

Eh, I look at her detractors, and it doesn't make HER look bad.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:27 pm

It doesn't make a difference by me if the officer searching is male or female.

I am never put off by police officers searching me. Every time this happens, its an opportunity to prove to them that I'm an obedient, law abiding citizen.

I don't understand this whole dialogue around "privacy violations" when people are searched. Its just silly. If I got nothing to hide I got nothing to hide.
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Postby Aillyria » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:It doesn't make a difference by me if the officer searching is male or female.

I am never put off by police officers searching me. Every time this happens, its an opportunity to prove to them that I'm an obedient, law abiding citizen.

I don't understand this whole dialogue around "privacy violations" when people are searched. Its just silly. If I got nothing to hide I got nothing to hide.

Quite, people are crying over nothing as usual. I've been on numerous flights and have never felt the TSA was intrusive. Also, what security measures do these people who want to abolish the TSA have in mind to replace it?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:44 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:It doesn't make a difference by me if the officer searching is male or female.

I am never put off by police officers searching me. Every time this happens, its an opportunity to prove to them that I'm an obedient, law abiding citizen.

I don't understand this whole dialogue around "privacy violations" when people are searched. Its just silly. If I got nothing to hide I got nothing to hide.

Quite, people are crying over nothing as usual. I've been on numerous flights and have never felt the TSA was intrusive. Also, what security measures do these people who want to abolish the TSA have in mind to replace it?


and they are only doing it to protect everyone from terrorists and criminals

its for the greater good after all
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