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Islamization underway in Fahran [IC - OPEN]

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Islamization underway in Fahran [IC - OPEN]

Postby Fahran » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:12 am

President Sabbagh proposes repealing the public ban on burqas and hijabs

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In what opposition leaders are calling an egregious violation of the Most Serene Republic's constitutionally mandated separation of mosque and state, President Mohammed Sabbagh and his allies in the Majlis al-Nuwwab, the nation's lesser legislative body, have introduced a law that would repeal the twenty one year old ban on donning hijabs, burqas, and other religious clothing on government property such as university campuses and courthouses. This move has elicited robust criticism from congressional leaders Rukha Sunallah, Mustaghfir Al Aouad, and Tibr Mardini among others. In response to prompting by party leaders, student activists closed down almost every major public university, assembling to chant pro-secular slogans and protest the perceived conservatism of President Sabbagh's Islamic Unity government in an unprecedented display of strength.

The president was unperturbed by the blow-back. "We cannot have democracy without religious liberty," he maintained, "We cannot have a Fahrani nation without Islam. It is our culture, our heritage, our light in the dark of the world. A government that persecutes believers, who constitute the majority, for the sake of a philosophical abstraction is injudicious and illegitimate, most especially when such tyrannical policies represent a cultural imposition by the West." With Sabbagh's ally, Prime Minister Fouzan Ali al-Quwwas, leading the Majlis al-Nuwwab, the bill appears likely to pass it's initial legislative test without amendment, though experts have warned that the Majlis al-Shuyukh, long dominated by liberal and nationalist parties, may present a steeper challenge.

Public reactions tor the ban's repeal have been mixed, with the urban middle-class, students, and intellectuals opposed whereas the rural poor and clerics have come out staunchly in support of Sabbagh, as one might expect given the role they played in his election last year. The coming weeks could see a stormier political climate in a country long notorious for its political turbulence.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:13 am

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1.) All the standard rules of NS are applicable. Max Barry is our king and we shall not defy him or his Mods.

2.) I intend this to be a political and character role-play principally. A large-scale invasion of Fahran doesn't make sense at this point. As such, I would prefer that you role-play your nation's leaders responding to these policies diplomatically or else that you role-play as foreign exchange students, expatriates, and ambassadors caught up in the tumultuous changes.

3.) While my initial post was short, I do intend to go into more narrative detail in the future. I expect all involved to put forward a decent amount of effort in composing posts. No one-liners. No godmodding. No power-gaming. No mind-numbing grammatical errors. We're writing a story here people.

4.) No OOC posts in the IC thread. If we need an OOC page, I'll add one later.

5.) This role-play is MT and based on realism to a significant degree. This means that PT, hard PMT, FanT, and FT nations should not post here unless they're willing to adhere to these standards and adjust their lore accordingly for the duration of this role-play. No sapient ponies, furries of any kind, or supernatural races or entities.

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Postby Zimbezia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:25 pm

"The United Republic of Zimbezia applauds the proposed repeal of this ban. Freedom of conscience is among the most important freedoms of all, and people of all faiths and creeds have the inalienable right to practice their faith as they see fit. Decrying this proposed repeal as an attack on secularism is unfounded. Many Muslim women in Zimbezia wear the hijab in public, yet no one here would question our government's commitment to secularism. As long as the State does not forcibly compel women to wear the hijab, there is no problem. Banning women from wearing it and forcing them to wear it are both a violation of human rights -- and we hope that Fahran does not pursue the latter option."

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Postby Riysa » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:06 pm

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Origin: Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Immigration, Riysa
Recipient: President Muhammad Sabbagh, Fahran
Subject: De-Secularization
Timestamp:16/1/2018




Asalaamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

On behalf of the Za'im, General Tawfiq al-Hiwari, and the people of Riysa, we congratulate you and our brothers and sisters in Fahran for throwing off the chains of imperialist forced secularism, and forging a path of freedom and enlightenment for your people to follow. We wish for blessings and glad tidings to be on Fahran - for indeed, "Surely, God does not change the condition of a people unless they change themselves" (13:11) - and we await Fahran to take its rightful position among the free nations who support liberty.

To help with the transition, and the Republic of Fahran in general, the Riysian Arab Republic is ready to assist with any means needed. This includes economic aid, trade, and advisors, who can help guide Fahran's transition to a free nation, liberated from imperialism and supporting the freedom of its people. We also would like to establish greater diplomatic relations, especially through a one on one meeting between our two nations. Please respond at your earliest convenience, so that we may plan ahead of time.

Sincerely,
Dr. Muawiyah Ayyubi, Minister of Foreign Affairs

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:42 pm

Response to Islamization in Fahran

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To: President Muhammad Sabbagh of Fahran

Based off of the information I have so far seen, I support your attempt to repeal this legislation. I do not comprehend any purpose in protesting this action as with certain attire or not, one's personality is unlikely to abruptly snap from secular to religious. As such, I must say that it seems foolish to object against this as an attack on secularism as this is only an affair of religious liberty. Furthermore, it is exceedingly likely that some of those that protest this may know those that wear other such religious apparel or clothing, such as crosses (this is only an example item), yet protest wearing hijabs and burqas. What do they think sets these two apart?

In the unlikely but nonetheless possible event of war or revolution, Parfuhmerie is willing to support the government by selling goods from the Two Seas Trading Company. However, I say this under the assumption that Fahran's government pursues a route of freedom, neither forcing nor prohibiting religious subjects such as attire or a right to worship (unless, of course, either such thing is detrimental to your nation, which means their outlawing would be beneficial). While I find the idea of liberty to be negotiable, being occasionally encroached upon where absolutely necessary, I still understand its importance.

Lastly, a paradox that I saw in the article: Fahran's constitution mandates the distinction between the government and religion, but would this clause not also mean that the government should not only not force religion upon their citizenry, but also not prohibit religious things, such as the wearing of hijabs and burqas? As such, this is not a violation of the constitution, but a repeal of a violation of the constitution. As this seems to be one of the points that the opposing parties are attempting to address, I would advise to reconfirm what this phrase truly means.

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Postby Shurjah » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:19 pm

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The Emir was giving a speech about his plans for the upcoming year and this caught his attention and was the subject of his speech that covered many topics including religion in Shurjah and in the region.

In the name of Allah the Most Gracious the Most Merciful, my brothers and sisters for how many years have we been oppressed? Many our oppression is a never ending cycle. I have heard of hatred for Islam in nations like America, France and Britain but nobody ever thinks about the hatred for Islam in our own countries, yes Arab Islamic nations. Our own nation is threatened by outsiders who want to tell us what to do this legacy has been seen in Chechnya, Gaza, Afghanistan and many other places. There are those among our people who hate our religion yet claim it as their own they have names like Muhammad, Omar, and Khalid. Recently we heard about President Muhammad Sabbagh of Fahran repealing a ban on hijab and other clothing for women that is part of our religion. How is it that a piece of cloth something so simple is the subject of controversy? The people who ban our hijab, yes our hijab the hijab worn by Muslim women is for every Muslim male and female as it is an aspect of our religion, these same people stand for things like 'liberty', 'freedom', and other sorts of lies. Where is the freedom and liberty when it comes to beards and hijabs? I congratulate you Mr.Fahran!
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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:41 am

Through his probes scattered across the multiverse, an action of outstanding good in another universe caught Heavenly Emperor Cheonsa's attention. In respone, he sent a video recording of himself saying these words to Fahran's leader:

"Assalamu alaikum, brother. I am Heavenly Emperor Cheonsa, leader of the Empire of Amenria, a heroic nation from our Earth. I see you have began to embrace a more modern approach to governing your people and are slowly leaving the foolish, archaic idea of secularism. I fully support your decision. I truly hope there will no longer be a separation of mosque and state in Fahran, so your people can enjoy progress, enlightenment, justice, and prosperity. I offer support of any kind should you need it, as it is my duty as a soldier of God to do what's right. Wassalamu alaikum, have a nice day."
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:18 am

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Versilia DENOUNCES Fahran

In a move quite usual of Versilia, Her Majesty Queen Akeldama I has officially denounced the nation of Fahran and its political leaders.

“Whilst Muslim leaders are entitled to their faith, it is beyond unwise to allow the donning of Islamic garments mandated by the Qur’an. Not everyone believes in Allah and the Muslim faith, and it is only right that government be a neutral mediator between religions and beliefs. I personally support the reinstatement of a ban, and call for the impeachment of President Sabbagh, who has threatened secularism and justice in Fahran by endorsing Islam in government.”

Along with this, Her Majesty has denounced any supporters of the President.
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Postby Carlist Spains » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:49 am

From: The Official Government of the Spains
To: Public

We don't support secularism, but the increasing islamization for your nation has signified a strike on the Spanish consciousness. We will support the opposition against this Islamization for the sole purpose of protecting Catholic minorities and their representation in the government.

Not only because Islamization includes the degradation of women and the promotion of the Mahomedan heresy, but also because its long-term consequences include:

  • High Consaguinity levels, as evidenced by countries with high islamism usually have.
  • The persecution of religious minorities (including Christians)
  • The aggressive expansionism these states present.
  • The ultimate cut between Fahran and Spain in trade.

Thus, we will support maintaining the Status Quo ante Reformo.
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Postby Vlasdol » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:57 am

Vlasdolian Response to Sabbagh's proposition to repeal the public ban on burqas and hijabs


"The world is in a... fragile position, with the... ugh... 'threat' of religious extremism, one would be fool to ignore this spontaneous change in policy. As such, we are... less than pleased with this decision. The Islamic faith promotes ridiculous ideals like slavery, degradation of women, the list goes on. To call Islam the religion of peace is a massive insult to nations like Krospicks. Which is why, The Iron Pact will be completely embargoing Fahran."


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