by The Hungoland » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:36 am
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by Sovaal » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:54 am
The Hungoland wrote:So the basic definition of smart is being quick-witted, but this doesn't make sense because its all relative. The reason i say this is because there is no way to truly be smart because to be considered smart it means you are quick-witted and intelligent, but if a semi smart person was surrounded by unintelligent people this would immediately make them a genius among fools. The definition of intelligent means to be able to acquire and apply learned skills, but this means that everyone is both unintelligent and intelligent at the same moment. This is possible because it is impossible to know everything in existence, so does this make all of humanity fools because in order to be smart you must be intelligent and quick-witted but to both of these things are relative because we are comparing them to ourselves. So in order to be "smart" you must know everything in the universe including thoughts and ideas which is (to our knowledge) impossible meaning no-one can ever be intelligent and to be quick-witted just means your faster at processing something than the person your comparing yourself to. This is why i believe it is impossible to truly be smart.
I might just be crazy so id like to hear your comments and perspective on the question
by Krasny-Volny » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:41 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:56 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:The definition of smart varies. Smartness and intelligence are relative, which is why IQ tests do a piss poor job of actually measuring one's intelligence.
I knew a guy back in school who could solve some of the most complex math problems you could think of, but struggled with tying his shoes and was utterly incompetent when it came to basic mechanical knowledge.
His polar opposite was a guy who could take any kind of gizmo, manufactured part, or electronics apart, find the problem, fix it himself, and put it back together again. He sucked at math and was constantly in summer school.
And then there was an individual who had an almost useless, yet miraculous ability: he could tell you what day it was for any date, past or future, you named. Like this:
"Howard, what day was August 2, 1952?"
"Saturday"
How the fuck he was able to do this I have no idea. But he was totally unexceptional in every other regard.
Could any of these people be considered smart? Yes and no, depending on the context. If the math wiz had been put to work in a machine shop, he would be the dumbest guy in the room. Ditto for the mechanically minded dude in an advanced calculus class. The truth is few of us are true renaissance men. I went to classes in college where my classmates alternatively found me frustratingly behind the times - the most clueless person there - or exceptionally competent to work with. Depending on who you asked, I could be described as really smart or really dumb. Ditto for the workplace. I would receive a mediocre reference from a boss who found my lack of ability to make snap measurements frustrating (making me severely handicapped in his workplace, where practically everything revolved around on-the-fly metric calculations) but an excellent one from the boss who found my ability to present clear, concise reports making use of statistics an advantage (making me exceptionally competent in that line of work, where that was a great deal of emphasis on paperwork and statistics in particular).
So yeah it's all relative to me.
And then there was an individual who had an almost useless, yet miraculous ability: he could tell you what day it was for any date, past or future, you named. Like this:
"Howard, what day was August 2, 1952?"
"Saturday"
How the fuck he was able to do this I have no idea. But he was totally unexceptional in every other regard.
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:01 am
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by Des-Bal » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:13 am
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Xmara » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:04 am
by Stellonia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:37 am
Mexar wrote:Everyone I know says I'm smart. Usually they suffix it with @$$, but that's close enough.
by Major-Tom » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:44 am
Xmara wrote:I think most people here have got it right when they say that it’s relative.
I had a couple of friend groups in high school. Among one group I was seen as a genius, and among the other group I was probably the dumbest person they knew. My intelligence didn’t change; it was rather how I was perceived.
How do I perceive myself? I’m probably one of the dumbest people I know.
by Salus Maior » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:44 am
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