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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:14 pm

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*sweatdrop* tfw I say to ask questions...only for 100% of them to be about colors rather than triggering/game mechanics :lol:

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:15 pm

Keep the pink, Yuno. #Gameplayersforhotpink

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Postby Flanderlion » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:17 pm

Why add the step of trigger nations? You can trigger straight from the region page due to the last WA update.

Edit: This actually pretty good, so thanks, and pink is fine for me on light theme.
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:32 pm

The pink works fine for me on light theme, probably because I’m on mobile and have brightness turned down.
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Postby The Glorious Hypetrain » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:40 pm

Thanks for taking the time to write this out Yuno! Glad to finally see some documentation on this.
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Postby Escade » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:48 pm

Love the pink and love the guide! Also, it seems like ages ago when you walked me through this the first time >:) :hug:

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Postby Tupelope » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 pm

Flanderlion wrote:Why add the step of trigger nations? You can trigger straight from the region page due to the last WA update.

Edit: This actually pretty good, so thanks, and pink is fine for me on light theme.


because sometimes update can run several minutes late so if u base it off that ull move too early and either be prevented from tagging or get banned if ur trying to lib. using a trigger nation/region accounts for that, so if update is running a couple minutes late the difference between the trigger updating and the actual target will either be about the same or a little more

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Postby Vincent Drake » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:00 am

What Flanderlion is saying is that you can use the trigger region's update to trigger off of instead of moving a nation into it and triggering off that nation. When the trigger region's page displays "Seconds Ago", that is your GO.

There are advantages and disadvantages to this method. The obvious advantage is that it takes very little effort, way less than moving nations around. However, there is a not-so-obvious disadvantage. You can't watch the trigger, call the trigger, AND jump at the exact same time with this method.

If you want to do those things at the same time when triggering off the trigger region itself, you need to not trigger off the region page. It has to be off the region's API last update shard request and you need to use a legal auto-refresh interval. This method is also not foolproof, in the rare case of the timestamp not changing enough for the caller to notice.
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Postby Tupelope » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:24 am

ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ya that makes sense i read his question wrong, but also isnt there some delay between the page showing that the region updated and the delegate changes and stuff?

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Postby Vincent Drake » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:30 am

Depending on your internet connection and the NS server, there can be display lag, but is doesn't matter what happens with the rest of the region. You're only interested in seeing "Seconds Ago" (which is why requesting this via the API is better than loading the whole page). IE, https://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/ap ... lastupdate
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:38 pm

yuno wants me to bump this

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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Nice, this is the way I learned, (and eventually forgot :P).
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