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Bedetopia
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Concerned about the phrasing of #596

Postby Bedetopia » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:33 am

Issue 596 Primogeniture Problems

I've been itching to remove monarchy for a while now and go back to a normal dictatorship, however option 4 which does that uses scary words:

“All this nonsense about succession has got me thinking,” says Birgitta Baldwin, esquire, who is 456,789th in line for the throne. “Does the monarchy actually serve a purpose anymore? Seems to me that it would just be cheaper to not have a head of state at all. Royalty mostly exist today for photo ops, anyways.”

I most definitely do not want to have an anarchy, this might wreck the government departments I've worked so hard for.

More clues:

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Monarchy - Activated by 461 and 527. Can be reversed in 596, but access to that issue is locked if you already have absolute primogeniture, which in turn cannot be reversed. So ideally we need an issue that can reverse both these in two options within a single issue. High priority.


Since it's the only issue that does it, I'm tempted to believe it wouldn't abolish government.

https://nsindex.net/w/index.php?title=N ... ldid=26473

Although unreliable, there does not seem to be major stat changes such as all sectors getting lowered.

Basically, I want to ask if any of you chose that option and what were the consequences.

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Postby Merconitonitopia » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:48 pm

this only refers to head of state, not state itself. i am certain this option will not axe spending and only serves to abolish monarchy.

#110:2 is the only option i know of that abolishes government, and sometimes it only sets size to 0.

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Postby Minoa » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:00 pm

Given that your civil rights and political freedoms are already so low, your nation will not be an anarchy instantly.

However, those user-contributed stats effects on NSindex are invalid or out of date: the only reason I could not purge the whole issue article's history is because of the Creative Commons licence that NSindex uses (Wikipedia also uses the "suppress revisions" feature very sparingly).

Alternatively, you could save the issue and wait for one that you think will increase the government size or authoritarianism.
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Postby Bedetopia » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:30 pm

Minoa wrote:Given that your civil rights and political freedoms are already so low, your nation will not be an anarchy instantly.

However, those user-contributed stats effects on NSindex are invalid or out of date: the only reason I could not purge the whole issue article's history is because of the Creative Commons licence that NSindex uses (Wikipedia also uses the "suppress revisions" feature very sparingly).

Alternatively, you could save the issue and wait for one that you think will increase the government size or authoritarianism.


It'd be a waste to delete all that data. While it's inaccurate it can still be helpful, besides if you actively seek the stats by looking at older revisions you know the risks.

I guess I could set up puppets to test it if nobody knows.

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Postby Ransium » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:05 am

I just wanted to say I’ve seen this but haven’t had time to read it throughly and respond.

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