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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

[SUBMITTED] Terms And Conditions Apply?

Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:04 am

[desc] The Mayor of @@CAPITAL@@ and a fellow party member by the name of @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Caesar has turned out to be wildly adored by @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ under @@HIS@@ administration. Unfortunately, due to a law that enforces term limits on elected officials, @@HE@@ is unable to run for re-election. Disappointed voters are beginning to question the practice of having term limits, and are insisting that changes be made to the rule.

[validity] Only valid for democratic nations with term limits

[option] "We love our mayor!" squeals @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan, eagerly showing off @@HIS@@ collection of Caesar-related memorabilia. "I hate to break it to you, but we simply don't like any of the other candidates in your party currently running for the position. The opposition has fielded much better entrants this time round, and unless you remove term limits entirely, we may have no choice but to pick one of them! Trust us, if we had a choice, we wouldn't want anyone else as our mayor either."
[effect] the political scene rarely changes due to most government positions remaining uncontested

[option] "The term limits must remain," insists @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Head of the Fair Electoral Practices Department. "Keeping term limits is absolutely necessary in order to have a functioning democracy. It prevents the entrenchment of power, reduces corruption rates, and brings some fresh candidates into politics each time we have an election. In fact, I would argue that term limits should be made even shorter than they are right now. After all, that's the only way to avoid a plutocracy from forming."
[effect] nothing is ever accomplished as officials enter and leave government posts like passing through a set of revolving doors

[option] "The mayor is too well liked!" exclaims @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Brutus, an envious official from your party that appears to be concealing a sharp object of some kind. "For example, recent polls place his popularity above your own. What's worse, I've heard rumours that the mayor is planning to fight you for your own position as leader! We must stop this right now and assassinate the mayor. After this, we can then use the resulting public sympathy to sweep a more loyal candidate into power. Why, I've got just the person for the job..."
[effect] @@LEADER@@ regularly engages in false flag operations to stay in power

[option] "You too, Brutus?" gasps the aforementioned Caesar, stepping out from behind a curtain. "How unfortunate, how utterly disgusting that there are members in our party willing to backstab one another for petty political gains; our party has grown decadent, and its apparatus must therefore be cleansed. Why don't you declare yourself dictator in perpetuity, and take the necessary steps to remove the rot from the state bureaucracy? Our nation won't survive without your management to keep it all pure and functioning."
[effect] @@NAME@@ has dropped all pretenses of being a democracy
[policies] term limits are removed
Last edited by Singapore no2 on Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:36 am, edited 5 times in total.
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We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
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Baggieland
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Postby Baggieland » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:05 am

Another good one No2.

Shouldn't the validity include democratic elections? As some countries with one-party rule also have term limits.
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Singapore no2
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Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:26 am

Baggieland wrote:Another good one No2.

Shouldn't the validity include democratic elections? As some countries with one-party rule also have term limits.

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This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Capitalizt

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:28 am

For reference, I've got a longstanding archived submission called On These Terms that doesn't address whether term limits should exist or not, but does address how long those terms should be for.

Feel free to use and abuse as you choose. The draft barely saw any comment back in the day.

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Singapore no2
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Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:35 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:For reference, I've got a longstanding archived submission called On These Terms that doesn't address whether term limits should exist or not, but does address how long those terms should be for.

Feel free to use and abuse as you choose. The draft barely saw any comment back in the day.

Could you add a link, please?
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Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Capitalizt

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:44 am

Sorry, thought I had!

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Jutsa
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Jutsa » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:10 am

I actually had a draft for this and was about to upload it today, but I decided to wait two days to help space out my weekly bumps. :rofl:

I'm glad I waited - mine wasn't the greatest. :P
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Australian rePublic
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:16 pm

Is this a matter for the government rather than a constitutional matter?
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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:07 pm

Australian Republic wrote:Is this a matter for the government rather than a constitutional matter?

You have to enforce term limits to get this issue, so yes, it is a government issue.
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Singapore no2
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Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:05 pm

Added another option, the generic one to kill democracy.
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Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:57 am

Singapore no2 wrote:Added another option, the generic one to kill democracy.

Perhaps what I should have asked:
Can govts. make decisions about term limits, or is that determined bt the constitution?
Last edited by Australian rePublic on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:17 am

Australian Republic wrote:
Singapore no2 wrote:Added another option, the generic one to kill democracy.

Perhaps what I should have asked:
Can govts. make decisions about term limits, or is that determined bt the constitution?

Yes. Yes they can.

You literally, as the leader of the government, make this decision in-game.
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Fauxia wrote:Editors aren’t real people.

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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:09 pm

Any more suggestions to implement?
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Shwe Tu Colony
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:34 am

Orange words are suggestions, orange ellipsis are removed phrases, underlined words are comments.

Singapore no2 wrote:[desc] The Mayor of @@CAPITAL@@ and a fellow party member by the name of @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Caesar ... has turned out to be wildly adored by @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ under @@HIS@@ administration. Unfortunately, due to a law ... that enforces term limits on elected officials, @@HE@@ is unable to run for re-election. Disappointed voters are beginning to question the practice of having term limits, and are insisting that changes be made to the rule.

[validity] Only valid for democratic nations with term limits

[option] "We love our mayor!" squeals @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan, eagerly showing off @@HIS@@ collection of Caesar-related memorabilia. "I hate to break it to you, but we simply don't like any of the other candidates in your party currently running for the position.... The opposition has fielded much better entrants this time round, and unless you remove term limits entirely, we may have no choice but to pick one of them...!Trust us, if we had a choice, we wouldn't want anyone else as our mayor either."
[effect] the political scene rarely changes due to most government positions remaining uncontested

[option] "The term limits must remain," insists @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Head of the Fair Electoral Practices Department. "Keeping term limits is absolutely necessary in order to have a functioning democracy. It prevents the entrenchment of power, reduces corruption rates, and brings some fresh candidates into politics each time we have an election. In fact, I would argue that term limits should be made even shorter than they are right now. After all, that's the only way to avoid a plutocracy from forming."
[effect] nothing is ever accomplished as officials enter and leave government posts like passing through a set of revolving doors

[option] "The mayor is too well liked!" exclaims @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Brutus, an envious official from your party that appears to be concealing a sharp object of some kind. "For example, recent polls place his popularity above your own. What's worse, I've heard rumours that the mayor is planning to fight you for your own position as leader! We must stop this right now and assassinate the mayor. After this, we canthen use the resulting public sympathy to sweep a more loyal candidate into power. Why, I've got just the person for the job..."
[effect] @@LEADER@@ regularly engages in false flag operations to stay in power

[option] "You too, Brutus?" gasps the aforementioned Caesar ... stepping out from behind a curtain. "How unfortunate, how utterly disgusting thatthere are ...members in our party willing to backstab one another for petty political gains; our party has grown decadent, and its apparatus must therefore be cleansed. Why don't you declare yourself dictator in perpetuity, and take the necessary steps to remove the rot from the state bureaucracy? Our nation won't survive without your management to keep it all pure and functioning."
[effect] @@NAME@@ has dropped all pretenses of being a democracy
[policies] term limits are removed
Last edited by Shwe Tu Colony on Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:00 am

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Orange words are suggestions, orange ellipsis are removed phrases, underlined words are comments.

Singapore no2 wrote:[desc] The Mayor of @@CAPITAL@@ and a fellow party member by the name of @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Caesar ... has turned out to be wildly adored by @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ under @@HIS@@ administration. Unfortunately, due to a law ... that enforces term limits on elected officials, @@HE@@ is unable to run for re-election. Disappointed voters are beginning to question the practice of having term limits, and are insisting that changes be made to the rule.

[validity] Only valid for democratic nations with term limits

[option] "We love our mayor!" squeals @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan, eagerly showing off @@HIS@@ collection of Caesar-related memorabilia. "I hate to break it to you, but we simply don't like any of the other candidates in your party currently running for the position.... The opposition has fielded much better entrants this time round, and unless you remove term limits entirely, we may have no choice but to pick one of them...!Trust us, if we had a choice, we wouldn't want anyone else as our mayor either."
[effect] the political scene rarely changes due to most government positions remaining uncontested

[option] "The term limits must remain," insists @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Head of the Fair Electoral Practices Department. "Keeping term limits is absolutely necessary in order to have a functioning democracy. It prevents the entrenchment of power, reduces corruption rates, and brings some fresh candidates into politics each time we have an election. In fact, I would argue that term limits should be made even shorter than they are right now. After all, that's the only way to avoid a plutocracy from forming."
[effect] nothing is ever accomplished as officials enter and leave government posts like passing through a set of revolving doors

[option] "The mayor is too well liked!" exclaims @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Brutus, an envious official from your party that appears to be concealing a sharp object of some kind. "For example, recent polls place his popularity above your own. What's worse, I've heard rumours that the mayor is planning to fight you for your own position as leader! We must stop this right now and assassinate the mayor. After this, we canthen use the resulting public sympathy to sweep a more loyal candidate into power. Why, I've got just the person for the job..."
[effect] @@LEADER@@ regularly engages in false flag operations to stay in power

[option] "You too, Brutus?" gasps the aforementioned Caesar ... stepping out from behind a curtain. "How unfortunate, how utterly disgusting thatthere are ...members in our party willing to backstab one another for petty political gains; our party has grown decadent, and its apparatus must therefore be cleansed. Why don't you declare yourself dictator in perpetuity, and take the necessary steps to remove the rot from the state bureaucracy? Our nation won't survive without your management to keep it all pure and functioning."
[effect] @@NAME@@ has dropped all pretenses of being a democracy
[policies] term limits are removed

Really appreciate the help! Thank you!
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Fauxia wrote:Editors aren’t real people.

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Singapore no2
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Founded: Apr 10, 2015
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:10 pm

Any last changes to be made?
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Divitalia
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Founded: Nov 09, 2017
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Divitalia » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:37 pm

Why doesn’t option 1 remove term limits?
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Singapore no2
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:50 pm

Divitalia wrote:Why doesn’t option 1 remove term limits?

It does.

But as it is obvious, I find it unnecessary to write it down.

Option 4 is a bit less obvious, so I added it so that issue editors will be aware as to what it does as well.
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

Quote of the year:
Fauxia wrote:Editors aren’t real people.

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Singapore no2
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Posts: 983
Founded: Apr 10, 2015
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 am

I suppose that I'll submit this.
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

Quote of the year:
Fauxia wrote:Editors aren’t real people.

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Jutsa
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Posts: 3896
Founded: Dec 06, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Jutsa » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:39 am

Good luck. :)
Here is a list containing a bunch of factbooks I created that are Got Issues? related.
>List of issue ideas
>List of missing issues/options
>List of accepted issues~
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Australian rePublic
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Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:05 pm

Good luck
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Shwe Tu Colony
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Founded: Sep 27, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:10 pm

Guude luck.
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Fauxia » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:58 pm

Good luck, Singapore!
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