[R]Threadjacking in Abortion Thread

[Alvecia]

I feel like the discussion of Keshiland's future plans have been going on for quite long enough with no real connection to abortion for about 5 pages or so. Probably longer. At this point it'd be more productive to just have their own thread for it.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=415543&start=7300

[The New California Republic]

As one of the people involved in the current discussion on said thread, it seems to have looped back to the discussion in the last couple of pages, relating to abortion and genetic diseases in particular.

[Ransium]

Agreed.

[Godular]

One question I have is whether Keshi’s posts are promoting illegal activity. He seems rather deadset on using extortion/blackmail to control people’s actions.

[USS Monitor]

One question I have is whether Keshi’s posts are promoting illegal activity. He seems rather deadset on using extortion/blackmail to control people’s actions.

Could you point out the specific posts you're concerned about? I'm visiting family, and it's hard to concentrate on a thread trawl with people talking around me.

[Godular]

One question I have is whether Keshi’s posts are promoting illegal activity. He seems rather deadset on using extortion/blackmail to control people’s actions.

Could you point out the specific posts you're concerned about? I'm visiting family, and it's hard to concentrate on a thread trawl with people talking around me.

I’m visiting family m’self, and only have access to my phone. I’ll try to pull up the relevant posts when I get home. I can understand that a trawl isn’t optimal... that guy’s kinda monopolized the discussion for a great many pages.

[Methodological Individualism]

(Posting to this report as a participant in the reported discussion; will cease and desist if required)

To be fair, woeful ignorance of the law is not necessarily the same as openly advocating its violation. Continued discussion might benefit the individual in question, but especially lurking passersby who might read it too.

[USS Monitor]

(Posting to this report as a participant in the reported discussion; will cease and desist if required)

To be fair, woeful ignorance of the law is not necessarily the same as openly advocating its violation. Continued discussion might benefit the individual in question, but especially lurking passersby who might read it too.

Can you link the specific post(s) this is referring to?

[Methodological Individualism]

(Posting to this report as a participant in the reported discussion; will cease and desist if required)

To be fair, woeful ignorance of the law is not necessarily the same as openly advocating its violation. Continued discussion might benefit the individual in question, but especially lurking passersby who might read it too.

Can you link the specific post(s) this is referring to?

The individual in question seems to have opinions based on a questionable understanding of the law/questionable legal background:

viewtopic.php?p=32950242#p32950242

Prompting appropriate and useful response:

viewtopic.php?p=32950265#p32950265

Even if it doesn't sway the individual in question, other readers may appreciate theses sorts of insights (myself included, actually).

EDIT: This however is probably just nonsense:

viewtopic.php?p=32950861#p32950861

[NERVUN]

Can you link the specific post(s) this is referring to?

The individual in question seems to have opinions based on a questionable understanding of the law/questionable legal background:

viewtopic.php?p=32950242#p32950242

Prompting appropriate and useful response:

viewtopic.php?p=32950265#p32950265

Even if it doesn't sway the individual in question, other readers may appreciate theses sorts of insights (myself included, actually).

EDIT: This however is probably just nonsense:

viewtopic.php?p=32950861#p32950861

Being wrong on the Internet isn't against the rules of NS. The fact that NSG is currently tearing it apart is what NSG does best.

[Godular]

I am back from my thanksgiving and in front of my actual computer.

Abortion records should be public for those who were not at risk of death from the pregnancy. Watch the numbers plummet if they inacted that also anti abortion legislation is in the Senate tax bill.https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.huffpost. ... 0e18cb/amp

1. That's illegal. Records of abortions are medical documents, and therefore protected under various medical privacy laws. KNOW THE LAW.

2. What public interest is there in knowing who has had an abortion? What state interest is there in such data?

1. It should be repealed

2. It makes people less likely to get one out of shame or fear of what others will think

Are two of the posts that struck me as the most questionable. I can understand if these are seen as just wishful thinking, but it came across as though he's advocating doxxing for the purposes of effectively discouraging people to act according to his views for fear of public shaming / retaliation.

[Ransium]

Not actionable.

[Godular]

Righto, was just asking.

[Godular]

Okay, I have another concern:

It may not be violence, but it is definitely abuse and manipulation. You should feel shitty for supporting this.

Those who are capable of getting what they want (like a child coming to term) through mind games and intellect have a right to use it.

What the literal fuck? No. No, they do not. Let's turn it: a big, physically powerful man wants a woman to have sex with him, but she doesn't want to. So, he rapes her. He was capable of getting what he wanted. Did he have a right to?

That's different he is using physically force. Ability of the mind is okay to use not strength of the body.

This right here is beyond the pale. I'm still not sure if it is 'advocating illegal activity', but I'm almost worried that it would count as trolling if only because it is causing a lot of disrupted calm.

I very much apologize for the bother... but it seems like Keshi's been monopolizing the subject matter for some time because it seems like one wtf moment after another.

[USS Monitor]

He's not advocating illegal activity. Suggesting that the law should be changed to allow something is not the same as advocating that people should ignore the law and commit crimes.

Trolling is more of a judgement call, but I don't see this as trolling. It's just an opinion that you don't agree with.

[Godular]

He's not advocating illegal activity. Suggesting that the law should be changed to allow something is not the same as advocating that people should ignore the law and commit crimes.

Trolling is more of a judgement call, but I don't see this as trolling. It's just an opinion that you don't agree with.

I dunno... what he's saying is really close to rape apologism. I recall something about sincere beliefs not being sufficient excuse when it comes to something that inflames others so much.

[USS Monitor]

He's not advocating illegal activity. Suggesting that the law should be changed to allow something is not the same as advocating that people should ignore the law and commit crimes.

Trolling is more of a judgement call, but I don't see this as trolling. It's just an opinion that you don't agree with.

I dunno... what he's saying is really close to rape apologism. I recall something about sincere beliefs not being sufficient excuse when it comes to something that inflames others so much.

He's not advocating rape. He's just advocating dysfunctional relationships.

[Godular]

I dunno... what he's saying is really close to rape apologism. I recall something about sincere beliefs not being sufficient excuse when it comes to something that inflames others so much.

He's not advocating rape. He's just advocating dysfunctional relationships.

Advocating domestic abuse/violence then.

[USS Monitor]

He's not advocating rape. He's just advocating dysfunctional relationships.

Advocating domestic abuse/violence then.

He's arguing about what constitutes abuse in the first place. Go argue him down.

[Godular]

Advocating domestic abuse/violence then.

He's arguing about what constitutes abuse in the first place. Go argue him down.

At which point would that not constitute threadjacking? It's a thread about abortion.

Edited: Heck with it. Blasted the ignore-gun at him, I don't need that kind of imbalance. I am still worried for the thread's welfare though.