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UBER, champion of the working class!

Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:21 am

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... yed-status

As we all know, Uber lost its court case to have its "employees" remain "self employed", and now their true intent shows itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42055841

Turns out they are now on the path to eliminate human drivers altogether and replace them with Volvo self driving cars. And while I would prefer a self driving car to a driver, Uber will undoubtably offer far cheaper fairs while paying a special tax to compensate for all the workers they're putting out of work.....oh wait, they won't.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42079937

And now it turns out after suffering a massive data breach, they tried paying off the hackers and concealing the fact. Big fine coming their way.

The question is...will this wake up the zombified legislators of the world to the threat of unregulated automation? Or will they just wait for mass unemployment and a social revolution? And when will governments and companies start taking cyber security seriously?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:23 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/28/uber-uk-tribunal-self-employed-status

As we all know, Uber lost its court case to have its "employees" remain "self employed", and now their true intent shows itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42055841

Turns out they are now on the path to eliminate human drivers altogether and replace them with Volvo self driving cars. And while I would prefer a self driving car to a driver, Uber will undoubtably offer far cheaper fairs while paying a special tax to compensate for all the workers they're putting out of work.....oh wait, they won't.

The question is...will this wake up the zombified legislators of the world to the threat of unregulated automation? Or will they just wait for mass unemployment and a social revolution?


Pretty sure they've been openly working on self-driving cars for a while.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:26 am

Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure they've been openly working on self-driving cars for a while.

Yeah, this isn't really a "new direction".

It's what they intended to do all along. The only question is how fast can the technology become ready.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 am

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure they've been openly working on self-driving cars for a while.

Yeah, this isn't really a "new direction".

It's what they intended to do all along. The only question is how fast can the technology become ready.


2021 according to the budget leaks. Or was it the actual budget?
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Postby Vyzhva » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:30 am

this is like Cars (the move) all over again. Self-driving Uber Volvos will eventually replace humanity.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:31 am

*shrugs*

They were rather lax in who the selected for their "independent contractors"

Why would I trust them for robotics?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 am

The Black Forrest wrote:*shrugs*

They were rather lax in who the selected for their "independent contractors"

Why would I trust them for robotics?


I don't think Uber will be very involved in the robotics side, bit outside their domain.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 am

The Black Forrest wrote:*shrugs*

They were rather lax in who the selected for their "independent contractors"

Why would I trust them for robotics?

That's a point. I'm rather hopeful for self driving cars. I hope Uber of all people don't become the champion for them

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:44 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:*shrugs*

They were rather lax in who the selected for their "independent contractors"

Why would I trust them for robotics?


I don't think Uber will be very involved in the robotics side, bit outside their domain.

The robots will be self employed, they'll just use Uber's platform.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
I don't think Uber will be very involved in the robotics side, bit outside their domain.

The robots will be self employed, they'll just use Uber's platform.

Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:48 am

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The robots will be self employed, they'll just use Uber's platform.

Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.


But will Uber be run by AI by then? The machines could rise up against the AI instead of us...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:50 am

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The robots will be self employed, they'll just use Uber's platform.

Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.


It's all fun until Gort starts melting everything.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:51 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.


It's all fun until Gort starts melting everything.

I think the future is Terrifying Standoff.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:52 am

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The robots will be self employed, they'll just use Uber's platform.

Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.

2, 4, 8, 16, equal pay for this machine!
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wait until the robots unionize. It's all fun and games until the robots unionize.

2, 4, 8, 16, equal pay for this machine!


As long as they don't find out about the lug nut shortage... :p
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Postby Methodological Individualism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:06 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Turns out they are now on the path to eliminate human drivers altogether and replace them with Volvo self driving cars.


Wait.

Did anyone actually not know that this was the plan all along? That human drove the cars at first, simply to test the marketability of the concept while self-driving vehicles were still in development?

Duh, right?

Dooom35796821595 wrote:The question is...will this wake up the zombified legislators of the world to the threat of unregulated automation? Or will they just wait for mass unemployment and a social revolution?


Also, the "gig economy" is already a symptom of under/un-employment. If the "glorious" "revolution" was going to happen at all, it's well overdue.

The Black Forrest wrote:Why would I trust them for robotics?


Robots might not try to grope or otherwise assault you.

Or, at least, they might give the slightest damn about traffic laws. Or just basic physics (the whole "two cars cannot occupy precisely the same space without issues" thing).
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Postby Chernoslavia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:15 am

Almost went ham on someone who works for Uber and know a dumb cunt who’s been very neglectful of her child as a result of working for them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:27 am

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure they've been openly working on self-driving cars for a while.

Yeah, this isn't really a "new direction".

It's what they intended to do all along. The only question is how fast can the technology become ready.

I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:33 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Yeah, this isn't really a "new direction".

It's what they intended to do all along. The only question is how fast can the technology become ready.

I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers

Driverless cars can probably drive faster and safer than human drivers.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Yeah, this isn't really a "new direction".

It's what they intended to do all along. The only question is how fast can the technology become ready.

I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers

I rather suspect that, on a long enough timeframe, eventually driverless cars will become like seatbelts.

First they were optional in luxury cars. Then they became standard in luxury cars. Then they became optional in regular cars. Then we made a law that they have to be put in all cars and if your car was originally equipped with it you gotta use it.

And the only ones without them will be cars that were manufactured before <date>.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:35 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers

Driverless cars can probably drive faster and safer than human drivers.


When stupid human drivers aren't rear ending them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:36 am

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers

I rather suspect that, on a long enough timeframe, eventually driverless cars will become like seatbelts.

First they were optional in luxury cars. Then they became standard in luxury cars. Then they became optional in regular cars. Then we made a law that they have to be put in all cars and if your car was originally equipped with it you gotta use it.

And the only ones without them will be cars that were manufactured before <date>.

I'm not going to fucking follow that dumbass law. I actually like to drive

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Thermodolia wrote:I'm not getting into a fucking driverless car and they are just going to be a pain in my ass on the road. Probably worse than those fucking slow ass grandma drivers

Driverless cars can probably drive faster and safer than human drivers.

I doubt it
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Postby Questers » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:37 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:a social revolution?
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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:37 am

What an opportunity. You can hijack a self driving car and bring it to a chop shop and no one could stop you. Maybe, they could lower the wages on the people who had to watch the cars.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:37 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:I rather suspect that, on a long enough timeframe, eventually driverless cars will become like seatbelts.

First they were optional in luxury cars. Then they became standard in luxury cars. Then they became optional in regular cars. Then we made a law that they have to be put in all cars and if your car was originally equipped with it you gotta use it.

And the only ones without them will be cars that were manufactured before <date>.

I'm not going to fucking follow that dumbass law. I actually like to drive

I suggest you buy a car now before they become standard equipment and are mandated by law then. We almost always grandfather the old stuff.
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