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Is globalism real?

Yes. Globalists are the enemy.
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Yes, but they aren't nefarious.
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No
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Is globalism real?

Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:41 pm

So I figured we'd take a break from the current flurry of sexual misconduct accusations to talk about one of the old favorites: globalism.

I'm sure my reputation as an SJW beta cuck Soros shill is well known here (Seriously George, I'm still waiting on those Shillbux), but here's my take on it anyway.

Globalism, like any conspiracy theory, is fundamental attribution error mapped onto social phenomenon. In this sense, the people decrying globalism are half-right. There is a tendency towards the breaking down of the nation-states by the globalization of capital, a blurring of the lines between the developed and developing world, and this economic order requires the free movement of capital and labor in order to function.

But being half-right is far more dangerous than complete ignorance. Globalization is real. What isn't real is any cabal willing it into existence for financial benefit, and all the attendent media related conspiracies. There's no such thing as a globalist agenda. It is the result of actors working within the market system pursuing their individual self-interest. Globalization happens because the demands for the accumulation and circulation of capital require the breaking of barriers to trade to preserve and expand revenues.

But it's not like right-wingers are the only people who believe in cabals. Globalism has a neat left-wing counterpart, "neo-liberalism". Neo-liberalism at least has the advantage that self-styled neo-liberals have existed for decades. But just like the anti-globalists, the left-wing neo-liberals put the cart before the horse, and think the break down of social democracy and welfare states is the result of a nefarious cabal destroying them, and not the result of very real crisis within capitalism that made social democracy untenable in the global capitalist market.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:32 pm

Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are both real. Shadow organizations are not
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Postby Nevada Communes » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:39 pm

It's obviously real and it's definitely hurting the international working class. But it's also ludicrous - as attractive as the idea is - to believe that globalism is the cause of a sinister cabal of shadow CEOs. It's more so residual of colonial relationships and the inevitable existence of a capitalist system. In some sense that makes it scarier, imo.

With the former belief, you can just point a stubby finger at some one big bad guy who wants to ruin the otherwise perfect society that capitalism makes, while if you believe that globalism is an inevitable and logical process of international capitalism, you have to accept that you can either choose to embrace it at the cost of your livelihood or oppose a deeply entrenched socio-economic system.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:42 pm

It depends on what you mean.
Are there people who think that inter-connecting the world through markets is a good thing?
Yes they exist, usually they're called neo-liberals but that belief is not exclusive to neo-liberalism.

If by globalism you mean some shadowy Jewish/Communist conspiracy to flood our nation full of Muslims and brown people?
Yeah no.

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:50 pm

The world is becoming more globalized, but it isn't because of some "Soros/Koch conspiracy to turn the world into some sort of world state." Rather, it's what happens when technology and economic development tie countries together. Globalism isn't so black and white either, it can be entirely positive and also negative at the same time.

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Postby Lion Clan » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:56 pm

Neo-Liberalism is completely real and relates to the resurgence of Laissez Faire economics. The free market is not only real but inherently beneficial to a country because the citizen is no longer controlled by socialist governments who don't know when to step away.

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:58 pm

It's real and I support it. It has numerous drawbacks, but hopefully those can be ironed out over time, because I don't see things becoming less globalised in the near future. To the contrary, I think globalism will continue to grow.

That's what my Reptilian masters tell me anyway.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:05 pm

Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are real and unavoidable. Those opposed are Luddites at best.

Those opposed should be sent to room 101.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:06 pm

Genivaria wrote:It depends on what you mean.
Are there people who think that inter-connecting the world through markets is a good thing?
Yes they exist, usually they're called neo-liberals but that belief is not exclusive to neo-liberalism.

If by globalism you mean some shadowy Jewish/Communist conspiracy to flood our nation full of Muslims and brown people?
Yeah no.

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Postby The Snazzylands » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:08 pm

Lion Clan wrote:Neo-Liberalism is completely real and relates to the resurgence of Laissez Faire economics. The free market is not only real but inherently beneficial to a country because the citizen is no longer controlled by socialist governments who don't know when to step away.

Yeah we should get rid of all those socialist policies like tariffs, immigration controls, and tax incentives that discourage outsourcing.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:13 pm

There needs to be some differentiation between political globalization and economic globalization, as the two aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Postby Appalachian Communists » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:20 pm

Globalism, yes. (((Globalism))), no. Economic globalization and neo-liberalism is a very real and increasingly prevalent part of our lives. It would be foolish to outright deny its existence.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:29 pm

Greed and Death wrote:Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are real and unavoidable. Those opposed are Luddites at best.

Those opposed should be sent to room 101.


Neither of those involve technological advancement, so those who oppose it aren't Luddites.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:38 pm

Economic free market global economy good.

Deep state pro socialism global political control treason.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:42 pm

Globalization is a real phenomenon with real supporters. Globalism is not.

In a sense, it's like the distinction between Marxism and "cultural Marxism". One is a very real philosophy and movement, the other is a conspiracy theory with anti-semitic roots. If you scratch the surface of "globalism", it's likely you'll find some anti-semitic roots too.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are both real. Shadow organizations are not

That's what they want you to believe
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are both real. Shadow organizations are not


Good boy. *backs up into the shadows*
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:49 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Globalism and Neo-Liberalism are both real. Shadow organizations are not

That's what they want you to believe

No, that's what they want you to believe!
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Postby The Alexanderians » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:That's what they want you to believe

No, that's what they want you to believe!

The truth is out there
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:59 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, that's what they want you to believe!

The truth is out there

But you digress.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:02 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:The truth is out there

But you digress.

I what?
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:04 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:But you digress.

I what?

di·gress
dīˈɡres
verb
leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing.
"I have digressed a little from my original plan"
synonyms: deviate, go off on a tangent, get off the subject, get sidetracked, lose the thread, turn aside/away, depart, drift, stray, wander
"I have digressed from the original plan"
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Postby The Snazzylands » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:06 pm

Over 99% of people don't think that literally every bad thing that happens in the world is somehow caused by one or more shadowy cabals/nefarious organizations with malicious intent towards them and/or group they identify with.
That just means the mind control devices are working.

Trotskylvania wrote:I'm sure my reputation as an SJW beta cuck Soros shill is well known here (Seriously George, I'm still waiting on those Shillbux), but here's my take on it anyway.

Yeah, I've been posting anti-White propaganda online for like six months now and I haven't received a single check from the guy. Unfortunately it seems like a common issue for certified internet disinfo shills working for Soros and Cultural-Marxist Zionist Globalist Masonic Judeo-Conspiracy Inc.

Donut section wrote:Economic free market global economy good.

Deep state pro socialism global political control treason.

What about a light amount of state pro socialism global political control?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:06 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I what?

di·gress
dīˈɡres
verb
leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing.
"I have digressed a little from my original plan"
synonyms: deviate, go off on a tangent, get off the subject, get sidetracked, lose the thread, turn aside/away, depart, drift, stray, wander
"I have digressed from the original plan"

Yes I know the meaning I can't understand why you are using red text though.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
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Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:07 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:di·gress
dīˈɡres
verb
leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing.
"I have digressed a little from my original plan"
synonyms: deviate, go off on a tangent, get off the subject, get sidetracked, lose the thread, turn aside/away, depart, drift, stray, wander
"I have digressed from the original plan"

Yes I know the meaning I can't understand why you are using red text though.

That's not red, that's maroon. Maroon, from me, anyway, is the color of Ominous Looming, as in, "Enough with the cutesy quips, get back on topic." Capisce?
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