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What system is better? Metric or Imperial

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What system is better?

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What system is better? Metric or Imperial

Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:40 am

Lets compare them.

Metric uses Base 10. Imperial uses no base.
Metric is used in science. Imperial is not used in science
Metric is used in all but 3. Imperial is used in none but 3

Here is a video to describe the Imperial system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7x-RGfd0Yk

So what do you think?

I think the Metric is the best by far and I have no idea why the US is not using it.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:42 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:Lets compare them.

Metric uses Base 10. Imperial uses no base.
Metric is used in science. Imperial is not used in science
Metric is used in all but 1. Imperial is used in none but 1

Here is a video to describe the Imperial system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7x-RGfd0Yk

So what do you think?

While the metric system is inherently better than the imperial system, we should take two things into account.

1. Switching systems of measurement is a hellish undertaking.
2. More nations than one use the imperial system.

Sure, the metric system is easier to learn, but not for people who have been using imperial units all their life.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:44 am

And here we have the least important debate of our generation. Either or are fine, don't really care which one used.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:45 am

Joke's on you, imperial units are defined using metric ones. They've been the same thing this whole time!
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:47 am

Valrifell wrote:Joke's on you, imperial units are defined using metric ones. They've been the same thing this whole time!


So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?
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Postby Hladgos » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:48 am

I think they tried to teach metric in the 70's from what my parents tell me, but people just rejected it and no change was made. I don't know why we don't just print both tho.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:51 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Joke's on you, imperial units are defined using metric ones. They've been the same thing this whole time!


So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?


Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?
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Postby Thyrgga » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:53 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Joke's on you, imperial units are defined using metric ones. They've been the same thing this whole time!


So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?


"Perfectly precise measurements" don't exist.

All systems of units are arbitrary. The usefulness of a particular system is determined by how convenient it is in its application.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:54 am

Valrifell wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?


Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?

We could, but we would get nowhere. The alternative is Fahrenheit, which is based off body temperature. And since humans are just sacks of water anyway...

What makes Celsius useless for conveying the weather?
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Postby Webus » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:55 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Joke's on you, imperial units are defined using metric ones. They've been the same thing this whole time!


So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?

Yes, well if "perfectly precise" mean "just as precise as the metric system"
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:55 am

Valrifell wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
So that still does not make them any less arbitrary and useless. Can you get perfectly precise measurements with the imperial system?


Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?


0 is freezing 100 is boiling very simple and useful. Unlike 32 freezing and 212 boiling wth
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:57 am

Whatever one you're used to is better, and everyone American who complains about imperial is obnoxious.

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Postby The Transhuman Union » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:57 am

Why this is a question? Seems obvious to me which is better...
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:57 am

The fact that the US is only one of THREE (I believe) nations on earth still using that backward ass archaic system should speak enough about this issue.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:58 am

The Transhuman Union wrote:Why this is a question? Seems obvious to me which is better...


Its a question because Americans can not seem to get that.
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:58 am

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:The fact that the US is only one of THREE (I believe) nations on earth still using that backward ass archaic system should speak enough about this issue.


Yes, Liberia and Myanmar also use the imperial system
Liberia is logical, because they were under America for a period of time, but Myanmar?
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:00 am

As a patriotic Canadian, I use metric, and try my best to avoid using imperial where possible, mainly because I associate it with the United States.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:01 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?


0 is freezing 100 is boiling very simple and useful. Unlike 32 freezing and 212 boiling wth

32F is the melting point of dihydrogen monoxide

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:02 am

Luziyca wrote:As a patriotic Canadian, I use metric, and try my best to avoid using imperial where possible, mainly because I associate it with the United States.


We're odd in that we still use it for say height and so on, but for everything else, we're metric. It's an interesting hold over.
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Postby Webus » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:02 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?


0 is freezing 100 is boiling very simple and useful. Unlike 32 freezing and 212 boiling wth

0 isn't freezing and 100 isn't boiling in metric. And memorizing two numbers isn't very hard.
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:02 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
0 is freezing 100 is boiling very simple and useful. Unlike 32 freezing and 212 boiling wth

32F is the melting point of dihydrogen monoxide


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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:05 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to. It just depends on how many decimals you want in your measurement, which shouldn't be too bothersome of you're a man of science.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?


0 is freezing 100 is boiling very simple and useful. Unlike 32 freezing and 212 boiling wth

That argument really is invalid. I like Celsius, but you can't take the measurement one is based on and then declare that one is better for better following that measurement.

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Lancaster of Wessex wrote:The fact that the US is only one of THREE (I believe) nations on earth still using that backward ass archaic system should speak enough about this issue.


Yes, Liberia and Myanmar also use the imperial system
Liberia is logical, because they were under America for a period of time, but Myanmar?

Britain also uses the imperial system, which is why it is called the imperial system in the first place. Officially, Britain has switched to metric, but you don't have to be there very long to see that that hasn't really caught on yet. Myanmar, being a former colony of Britain, uses imperial, the same reason the US uses it.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:05 am

Neither break out the rankine,
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Postby Zakuvia » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:10 am

American here. I loathe the Imperial system. Even though I'm at a point of muscle memory with it, if the country suddenly changed overnight to Metric, I'd dance naked in the streets, firing off a perfectly one meter long roman candle with ten shots.
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