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Who will win in the US governor elections?

Democrat sweep
90
48%
Republican sweep
19
10%
Dem in VA, GOP in NJ
3
2%
Dem in NJ, GOP in VA
29
16%
Dem in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
GOP in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
Dem in NJ, not sure about VA
24
13%
GOP in NJ, not sure about VA
0
No votes
Not sure about either
11
6%
 
Total votes : 186

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:53 am

Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.


Well, no, the Dems are about 20 points ahead in NJ, and about tied with the GOP in VA atm.

Not at all, really. NJ is a reliably blue state that had a massively unpopular red governor. Virginia is a swing state that leans blue that I could see electing another Republican.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:56 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.


Well, no, the Dems are about 20 points ahead in NJ, and about tied with the GOP in VA atm.

Not at all, really. NJ is a reliably blue state that had a massively unpopular red governor. Virginia is a swing state that leans blue that I could see electing another Republican.

And Chris Christie was only really popular after the hurricane.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:15 pm

Corrian wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Well, no, the Dems are about 20 points ahead in NJ, and about tied with the GOP in VA atm.

Not at all, really. NJ is a reliably blue state that had a massively unpopular red governor. Virginia is a swing state that leans blue that I could see electing another Republican.

And Chris Christie was only really popular after the hurricane.


He beat back Irma, too.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:50 pm

Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

Republicans have zero chance In New Jersey and for the record New Jersey is extremely multicultural. Virginia doesnt look good the moment for your side but there is a possible of a Republican win

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:53 pm

Trumptonium wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:NJ vs. Va racial demographics? They don't differ that much. Jersey is hugely multicultural.


Demographics =/= Racial demographics.

Besides on that note whites in Maine are more Democrat than Hispanics in Florida.

NJ is less multicultural than VA, if we take the literalist meaning. New Jersey has a far greater tendency to have ethnic enclaves than Virginia.

Multicultural means 2% of the population is Italian, 2% German, 2% English, 2% French, 2% Polish, 2% Irish, 2% Spanish, 2% Mexican, 2% Portuguese, 2% Swedish or each ethnic group has a population percentage proportionate to their national share.

Multicultural does not mean New Jersey having cities where 50%+ of the population is Korean or Ashkenazi Jewish or there's a Little Bombay. That's ethnic ghettoisation.

Then you have a strange definition of multicultural.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

Republicans have zero chance In New Jersey and for the record New Jersey is extremely multicultural. Virginia doesnt look good the moment for your side but there is a possible of a Republican win

It would help if Democrats didn't do about the shittiest ad possible. That doesn't help their chances in Virginia.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:58 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans have zero chance In New Jersey and for the record New Jersey is extremely multicultural. Virginia doesnt look good the moment for your side but there is a possible of a Republican win

It would help if Democrats didn't do about the shittiest ad possible. That doesn't help their chances in Virginia.

The ad in question i think your referring too was not a northam ad nor was it affiliated with the DGA or DNC. It was aired by a Latino activist group.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:00 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans have zero chance In New Jersey and for the record New Jersey is extremely multicultural. Virginia doesnt look good the moment for your side but there is a possible of a Republican win

It would help if Democrats didn't do about the shittiest ad possible. That doesn't help their chances in Virginia.


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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:It would help if Democrats didn't do about the shittiest ad possible. That doesn't help their chances in Virginia.

The ad in question i think your referring too was not a northam ad nor was it affiliated with the DGA or DNC. It was aired by a Latino activist group.

Fair enough.

Still in poor taste.

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This shit
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:27 pm

God damn that was a stupid ad lol.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:God damn that was a stupid ad lol.


It was more like "wot" for me. In any rate, it seems pulling at racial tensions is becoming more utilized in these elections given Trump's election victory. I can only imagine it will get worst, especially in future elections.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:16 pm

I support Rauner, reluctantly.

Keep Kennedy away.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:24 pm

The only comment I have about that dumb ad is that they should have had Pennywise driving the truck.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:54 pm

Albrenia wrote:The only comment I have about that dumb ad is that they should have had Pennywise driving the truck.

Make it happen.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:00 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:I support Rauner, reluctantly.

Keep Kennedy away.


I'm pretty much of the opinion that the god damned Kennedy clan should just stay out of politics at this point. And Rauner gets a ton of heat, but even as someone who leans heavily towards the Dems, I can say that he is one of Illinois's better governors. Certainly better than the last few cronies.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:07 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:I support Rauner, reluctantly.

Keep Kennedy away.


I'm pretty much of the opinion that the god damned Kennedy clan should just stay out of politics at this point. And Rauner gets a ton of heat, but even as someone who leans heavily towards the Dems, I can say that he is one of Illinois's better governors. Certainly better than the last few cronies.

...There is an election for governor there already?
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:09 pm

Corrian wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I'm pretty much of the opinion that the god damned Kennedy clan should just stay out of politics at this point. And Rauner gets a ton of heat, but even as someone who leans heavily towards the Dems, I can say that he is one of Illinois's better governors. Certainly better than the last few cronies.

...There is an election for governor there already?


2018, I think Sauganash is referring to that.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:25 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Corrian wrote:...There is an election for governor there already?


2018, I think Sauganash is referring to that.

...3 years apart?
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Postby Lalaki » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:37 pm

Hoping for a Democratic sweep.

I like Ralph Northam. He's a moderate liberal and has solid policy positions. Ed Gillespe's stances on health care, climate change, and reproductive rights bother me (I also dislike his views on immigration but governors don't have jurisdiction over that).
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:13 am

Corrian wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
2018, I think Sauganash is referring to that.

...3 years apart?


Huh? What, no, no, Illinois is every four years, 2014, 2018, etc.

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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:17 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Corrian wrote:...3 years apart?


Huh? What, no, no, Illinois is every four years, 2014, 2018, etc.

I just read "Governor since 2015", but that is probably when he came into office.

Edit: Wait, that would still be 3 years.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:49 am

Corrian wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Huh? What, no, no, Illinois is every four years, 2014, 2018, etc.

I just read "Governor since 2015", but that is probably when he came into office.

Edit: Wait, that would still be 3 years.



nah fam he would take office again in 2019, since elections are in 2018.

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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:57 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Corrian wrote:I just read "Governor since 2015", but that is probably when he came into office.

Edit: Wait, that would still be 3 years.



nah fam he would take office again in 2019, since elections are in 2018.

Ah, yeah.

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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:03 am

Well that ad was weird.
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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:05 am

San Lumen wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
Demographics =/= Racial demographics.

Besides on that note whites in Maine are more Democrat than Hispanics in Florida.

NJ is less multicultural than VA, if we take the literalist meaning. New Jersey has a far greater tendency to have ethnic enclaves than Virginia.

Multicultural means 2% of the population is Italian, 2% German, 2% English, 2% French, 2% Polish, 2% Irish, 2% Spanish, 2% Mexican, 2% Portuguese, 2% Swedish or each ethnic group has a population percentage proportionate to their national share.

Multicultural does not mean New Jersey having cities where 50%+ of the population is Korean or Ashkenazi Jewish or there's a Little Bombay. That's ethnic ghettoisation.

Then you have a strange definition of multicultural.


Yes, in your world multicultural means a black-only city in a majority-white state.

Tbf in your case Apartheid South Africa must have been the multicultural dream. 20% white 10% indian 70% black, just not together. as long as the stats are there to prove it.
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