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Add a Quote Button on Individual RMB Post Links

Postby Paffnia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:02 pm

If you click on the time-stamp of an RMB post, you go to a page showing that single post by itself (for example, https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27280889). However, the normal "Quote" button that appears when you mouse over an RMB post in a your own region (or a region in which you can post) does not appear in these individual post pages.

This is a minor fix, but I see a use for it. When I have a number of other nations' posts I want to quote in a single post of my own, I usually click the time-stamp on each first, so that I can isolate it and not lose track of it as I compose my post. But then, I can't quote them. I have to click "Context," then "Quote," which seems like an unnecessary step.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:28 pm

You can only quote posts in regions where you're authorized to post. What you're suggesting would either allow you to posts quotes in every RMB, or would cause posting to fail in unauthorized regions. Both are serious negatives. RMBs are there for the region to communicate. Opening it to all players would be a huge problem, and blocking 99.9% of extra-regional posts would cause all manner of confusion.

I can see why you like the idea, but I don't think you've considered the downside. I'm quite certain the mods would be deluged with questions about "why can't I post? I dinna do anything wrong!!1!" I'm very much against this idea.

You can build your quotes manually. It's nothing more than [quote={nationname};{PostID#}(From the URL)]Quoted content[/quote]

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:33 pm

On further examination, I think I misunderstood your suggestion, as it linked to a region where I don't have posting permission.

The Quote button appears in the normal RMB, the full RMB (in Forum View), but not on isolated posts. You just want it added to that one view, and only in regions where you're permitted to post. That's probably acceptable and doable.

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Postby Paffnia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:46 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:The Quote button appears in the normal RMB, the full RMB (in Forum View), but not on isolated posts. You just want it added to that one view, and only in regions where you're permitted to post. That's probably acceptable and doable.

Yeah, to clarify, this is exactly it. Hopefully a small change.
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Postby [violet] » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:33 pm

It's doable, but isn't trivial, since there's no posting box on single-RMB pages. The quote button would need to be altered to direct you to a region or forum-view board page and then insert the relevant quote into it.

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Postby Paffnia » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:00 am

[violet] wrote:It's doable, but isn't trivial, since there's no posting box on single-RMB pages. The quote button would need to be altered to direct you to a region or forum-view board page and then insert the relevant quote into it.

No clue what would be involved technically, but could the "Quote" button instead make a posting box appear below on the single-post page? Or is that just as tricky?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:07 am

Paffnia wrote:could the "Quote" button instead make a posting box appear below on the single-post page? Or is that just as tricky?

There's currently no way to reply to a single post page. We'd have to completely redo the way that sort of page works before we could add replies, quotes or pretty much anything. Since the current system requires only two clicks to make it work, and since you're the first person to complain about this in the decade or so that the current system has existed ... how about we just continue with what we have?

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Postby Roavin » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:41 pm

What I usually do is I click "quote" on anything I want to reply to as I browse through a page (in forum view) and before I move to the next page, copy and paste that into a text editor. Then I write my post in the text editor, copy that into the box, preview/edit/submit.
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Postby [violet] » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:59 pm

Paffnia wrote:No clue what would be involved technically, but could the "Quote" button instead make a posting box appear below on the single-post page? Or is that just as tricky?

Either are possible but a bit more challenging than just adding a button, so not something I can dash off right now. Seems worth doing eventually, though.

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Postby Paffnia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:34 am

[violet] wrote:
Paffnia wrote:No clue what would be involved technically, but could the "Quote" button instead make a posting box appear below on the single-post page? Or is that just as tricky?

Either are possible but a bit more challenging than just adding a button, so not something I can dash off right now. Seems worth doing eventually, though.

Appreciate the response! Thanks for looking into it.
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Postby Paffnia » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:34 pm

[violet] wrote:Either are possible but a bit more challenging than just adding a button, so not something I can dash off right now. Seems worth doing eventually, though.

This isn't a big issue, but bringing it back up to maybe get in the improvement queue.
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Postby Comfed » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:28 pm

To quote an RMB post from the timestamp link, simply click "context" and quote.

EDIT: drat, nevermind, didn't read the second paragraph properly. :p
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Postby Paffnia » Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:37 pm

Bumping this, as I would have had use for it again recently in making some RMB posts.
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