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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:21 pm

Could you please provide a more descriptive title and some more background?

The Left-Wing Discussion Thread is over here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=396196, and we're not going to have a 2nd one. Also, there is no thread ownership in NSG, so you can't actually stop right-wingers from posting if they have a comment about this anti-bullying stuff.
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Postby Gagium » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:23 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right. Thank you very much for not talking to me and I hope you have a pleasant and wonderful day.

Anyaw. I support the movement that is beginning against bullying. I know that I have no idea what other disabled folks have dealt with that, but it was horrible when I was a kid. So do you agree with what New York is doing fining the parents of kids that tease ? Do you feel there should be penalties ? Or do you agree nothing should be done ? Remember to wear purple as a a sign you are against bullying !

I would answer but I don't think I'm allowed to if I'm right leaning...?
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:31 pm

Gagium wrote:
Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right. Thank you very much for not talking to me and I hope you have a pleasant and wonderful day.

Anyaw. I support the movement that is beginning against bullying. I know that I have no idea what other disabled folks have dealt with that, but it was horrible when I was a kid. So do you agree with what New York is doing fining the parents of kids that tease ? Do you feel there should be penalties ? Or do you agree nothing should be done ? Remember to wear purple as a a sign you are against bullying !

I would answer but I don't think I'm allowed to if I'm right leaning...?


You are allowed. That's one reason I'm trying to get him to edit the OP.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:35 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
You are allowed. That's one reason I'm trying to get him to edit the OP.


Sure they can answer but I won't respond. That's all right isn't it ?


Yes, but you still need to fix the OP and thread title.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:52 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right. Thank you very much for not talking to me and I hope you have a pleasant and wonderful day.

Anyaw. I support the movement that is beginning against bullying. I know that I have no idea what other disabled folks have dealt with that, but it was horrible when I was a kid. So do you agree with what New York is doing fining the parents of kids that tease ? Do you feel there should be penalties ? Or do you agree nothing should be done ? Remember to wear purple as a a sign you are against bullying !

P.S: If you represent the Right, I won't respond

Most political test I've taken have put me just left of center, but you can't keep right wingers from answering, and ignoring them is kinda childish.

Anyway; you mind posting a source on what NY is specifically doing?

But yes bullying is bad.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:06 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Most political test I've taken have put me just left of center, but you can't keep right wingers from answering, and ignoring them is kinda childish.

Anyway; you mind posting a source on what NY is specifically doing?

But yes bullying is bad.


Hmm...I see. My reason for not speaking to them is they get you upset and you can not make any credible points with them. As far I can see, they might as well be from Mars.

That's not unique to right wingers.


Hmmm, I'm going to have to read on this some more.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:07 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right. Thank you very much for not talking to me and I hope you have a pleasant and wonderful day.

Anyaw. I support the movement that is beginning against bullying. I know that I have no idea what other disabled folks have dealt with that, but it was horrible when I was a kid. So do you agree with what New York is doing fining the parents of kids that tease ? Do you feel there should be penalties ? Or do you agree nothing should be done ? Remember to wear purple as a a sign you are against bullying !

P.S: If you represent the Right, I won't respond

Ya the problem with that is that you believe that everyone to the right of Stalin is a fascist
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:11 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
You are allowed. That's one reason I'm trying to get him to edit the OP.


Sure they can answer but I won't respond. That's all right isn't it ?

Then you're not posting in good faith.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:11 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya the problem with that is that you believe that everyone to the right of Stalin is a fascist



Nope.

I consider them to be anti-Disabled Supremacists. I consider most of them to be my natural enemies. But fascist ? No, not fascists. Just anti-Disability Supremacists.

Must hate everyone then, huh.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Hirota » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:13 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Most political test I've taken have put me just left of center, but you can't keep right wingers from answering, and ignoring them is kinda childish.

Anyway; you mind posting a source on what NY is specifically doing?

But yes bullying is bad.


Hmm...I see. My reason for not speaking to them is they get you upset and you can not make any credible points with them. As far I can see, they might as well be from Mars.

but since you asked : http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/parents ... d=50386384

Getting upset is your problem, not theirs... provided they stick to the rules. But in general normal life people have to work and interact with people they might disagree with on certain matters. That's how grown ups operate...well, how they should operate. A lot of people, Americans in particular, seem to be struggling with that these days and it isn't limited to one demographic of politics.

As to the law, I can see the benefits of bringing parents to the table to deal with their bullying offspring, but I'd hope it remains confined to a weapon of last resort.
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Postby Merconitonitopia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:13 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right.

boo!

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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:17 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right.

How do you have your beliefs challenged?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:17 pm

I am a right winger, I will talk in any god dammed general thread I want to, I would like to see you OP stop me. In fact trying to stop me can be considered a form of bullying. My general response to bullys. Is fuck off. Something society needs to say more to bullies.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:18 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Must hate everyone then, huh.



Nearly.

Seems like a problem.
I dream of a land without you and all the harm you can do. The amount of agony I went through, the misunderstandings...it makes my hand flex for no good reason.

Look man, I ain't down nothing to you. I'm sorry that people where assholes to you, but that isn't a good excuse to hate everybody and the world.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:20 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right.

How do you have your beliefs challenged?

They don't, nor do they want to apparently
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:21 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:I am a right winger, I will talk in any god dammed general thread I want to, I would like to see you OP stop me. In fact trying to stop me can be considered a form of bullying. My general response to bullys. Is fuck off. Something society needs to say more to bullies.

Never change Ethel.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:How do you have your beliefs challenged?

They don't, nor do they want to apparently

Sounds horribly boring.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They don't, nor do they want to apparently

Sounds horribly boring.

Yes but it makes them no different then the people that hurt them and hardline Nazis.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:26 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Sounds horribly boring.



I'm reminded of how Nazi Germany treated it's disabled people..

And?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:27 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I am a right winger, I will talk in any god dammed general thread I want to, I would like to see you OP stop me. In fact trying to stop me can be considered a form of bullying. My general response to bullys. Is fuck off. Something society needs to say more to bullies


Hmm...Have you checked out the NY thing ? http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/parents ... d=50386384

And wouldn't you take joy if your child was making my child miserable ? Shouldn't he enjoy his excruciating torture for non-Disabled kids delight ?


So you are talking to. Right winger.

Would I take joy iny kid bullying yours? No I would put a stop to it. However my kids are taught not to bully anyone, and to let me know if they see it. I will say someone did try and bully boy #2, and he beat the crap out of them, (shame the kid didn't know boy #2 was a red belt) I was ok with that.

As to the parents bein jailed, I would rather the bully themselves be jailed, but if the parent is encouraging the bullying, I have no issue with them being jailed as well.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:28 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Sounds horribly boring.



I'm reminded of how Nazi Germany treated it's disabled people..

I really don't know how you're reminded of that.

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Postby Aellex » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:And wouldn't you take joy if your child was making my child miserable ? Shouldn't he enjoy his excruciating torture for non-Disabled kids delight ?

...
The fuck?
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Postby Gagium » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Most political test I've taken have put me just left of center, but you can't keep right wingers from answering, and ignoring them is kinda childish.

Anyway; you mind posting a source on what NY is specifically doing?

But yes bullying is bad.


Hmm...I see. My reason for not speaking to them is they get you upset and you can not make any credible points with them. As far I can see, they might as well be from Mars.

but since you asked : http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/parents ... d=50386384

That happens from both sides you know...more with the left than with the right in my opinion, but just that: my opinion. You can't just not listen to the other opinions side and get anywhere in life with only hearing things you like.

But yeah, bullying is (obviously) bad, and I think the movement you refer to against bullying has been going on for, well, a while. Schools should do things to stop it, but if they aren't going to, the least they can do is at least not tell the student they're going to but then turn their backs on them.
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Postby Isapito » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:30 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:I no longer talk to people who are allied to the Right. Thank you very much for not talking to me and I hope you have a pleasant and wonderful day.

Anyaw. I support the movement that is beginning against bullying. I know that I have no idea what other disabled folks have dealt with that, but it was horrible when I was a kid. So do you agree with what New York is doing fining the parents of kids that tease ? Do you feel there should be penalties ? Or do you agree nothing should be done ? Remember to wear purple as a a sign you are against bullying !

P.S: If you represent the Right, I won't respond

You should talk to right wingers, inter-ideological debate is necessary for a healthy democracy.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:30 pm

Aellex wrote:
Lincolnopolis wrote:And wouldn't you take joy if your child was making my child miserable ? Shouldn't he enjoy his excruciating torture for non-Disabled kids delight ?

...
The fuck?

I second that.

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