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What Should be Done about Bullfighting?

It is cruel, and should be outlawed.
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It is a cultural spectacle, and should be protected.
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39%
Indifferent.
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Total votes : 88

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Postby The Sauganash Union » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:48 am

I was talking with a coworker today who went to Spain over the summer. He mentioned he went to a bullfight. He said it was a very surreal experience. It was full of spectacle and danger, but also very bloody, violent, and emotionally nerve-wracking. This is similar to my own experience. In high school, I went on vacation to Mexico, and my father took me to a bullfight, and it was one of the most intense things I've ever seen.

No doubt, it was bloody and probably agonizing for the bull, but I could not look away. I was drawn to it. It was like nothing I've ever seen, and after watching the bullfight, I felt like I had aged by 10 years. I do agree it is horribly cruel to the bull, but supposedly bullfighting also brings in a lot of revenue for the local community (the beef gets donated to the orphanages), and many Spanish and Mexicans view it as a proud tradition and integral to their culture, and who am I as an American to tell them they can't do that?

All in all, I'm not sure where I stand on this. What does NSG think of bullfighting?
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Postby Topoliani » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:51 am

I have a neutral stance on it, bulls are just a big pile of bullshit so I don't care about them and bullfighting itself is just kinda weird.

If it was Humans fighting other Humans I would pay 10K for one ticket
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Postby Galloism » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:53 am

Topoliani wrote:I have a neutral stance on it, bulls are just a big pile of bullshit so I don't care about them and bullfighting itself is just kinda weird.

If it was Humans fighting other Humans I would pay 10K for one ticket

The Roman Colosseum wasn't near that expensive.
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Postby Aellex » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:54 am

Corridas are cool both as themselves and as a tradition. I'm all for them as long as the bull too has the opportunity to kill the torero and get freed if he manages to.
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Postby Topoliani » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:54 am

Galloism wrote:
Topoliani wrote:I have a neutral stance on it, bulls are just a big pile of bullshit so I don't care about them and bullfighting itself is just kinda weird.

If it was Humans fighting other Humans I would pay 10K for one ticket

The Roman Colosseum wasn't near that expensive.

Figuratively...
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Postby Galloism » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:55 am

Aellex wrote:Corridas are cool both as themselves and as a tradition. I'm all for them as long as the bull too has the opportunity to kill the torero and get freed if he manages to.


Relevant joke:

A man travels to Spain and goes to a restaurant near the bull arena for a late dinner. He orders the house special and he is brought a plate with potatoes, corn, and two large meaty objects. "What's this?" he asks?

"The Matador Special, Senor," the waiter replies.

"What meat is it?" the man asks.

"Cojones," the waiter explains, "They, are the testicles of the bull who lost at the arena this afternoon."

At first the man is disgusted; but being the adventurous type, he decides to try this local delicacy. To his amazement, it is quite delicious. In fact, it is so good that he decides to come back again the next night and order it again. This time, the waiter brings out the plate, but the meaty objects are much smaller.

"What's this?" he asks the waiter.

"The Matador Special, senor," the waiter replies.

"No, no," the man objects, "I had the Matador Special yesterday and it was much bigger than this."

"Senor," the waiter explains, "the bull does not always lose."
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:56 am

Galloism wrote:
Topoliani wrote:I have a neutral stance on it, bulls are just a big pile of bullshit so I don't care about them and bullfighting itself is just kinda weird.

If it was Humans fighting other Humans I would pay 10K for one ticket

The Roman Colosseum wasn't near that expensive.


Yeah, but they used slaves. Consenting gladiator matches might be a bit more expensive.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:57 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Galloism wrote:The Roman Colosseum wasn't near that expensive.


Yeah, but they used slaves. Consenting gladiator matches might be a bit more expensive.

Stop analyzing my jokes.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:57 am

Galloism wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Yeah, but they used slaves. Consenting gladiator matches might be a bit more expensive.

Stop analyzing my jokes.


Then write funny jokes. :p
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:03 am

You know what else brings in alot of revenue? Boxing. Wrestling. MMA fighting.
All things that humans agree to participate in with medical personnel on standby.

"bull-fighting" on the other hand is a rather sick sport to torture an animal without need or cause for entertainment.
If I saw anyone in public treat an animal how the bull is treated I'd likely beat them within an inch of their life.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:08 am

I would be more ambivalent to it if the bull had a fair chance and would be rewarded when he wins.

However, the current tradition is that a victorious bull is hung from a tree, throat cut, to slowly bleed to his death.
Alongside his mother.

Yeah. No. Fuck tradition and ban it.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:13 am

It's not my thing, but to each his own.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:14 am

The Alma Mater wrote:I would be more ambivalent to it if the bull had a fair chance and would be rewarded when he wins.

However, the current tradition is that a victorious bull is hung from a tree, throat cut, to slowly bleed to his death.
Alongside his mother.

Yeah. No. Fuck tradition and ban it.

what the actual fuck

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:17 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I would be more ambivalent to it if the bull had a fair chance and would be rewarded when he wins.

However, the current tradition is that a victorious bull is hung from a tree, throat cut, to slowly bleed to his death.
Alongside his mother.

Yeah. No. Fuck tradition and ban it.

what the actual fuck

Bull killed a man, so the bull and the cow that spawned him must die. Can't have that bloodline evolving further.
Because hey - it may become a *challenge* otherwise.
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Postby Topoliani » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:19 am

But what about Bull running?

I mean, these poor innocent Civilians are afraid for their lives as they are chased down the the street by bulls for the entertainment of a few.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:20 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Genivaria wrote:what the actual fuck

Bull killed a man, so the bull and the cow that spawned him must die. Can't have that bloodline evolving further.
Because hey - it may become a *challenge* otherwise.

The man who was attacking it with a sword?
The fuck is wrong with these people?

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Postby Maichuko » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:33 am

Huh, until now all my information about Bullfighting came from cartoons. Just learned about that whole Sword stabby stabby part.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:38 am

Maichuko wrote:Huh, until now all my information about Bullfighting came from cartoons. Just learned about that whole Sword stabby stabby part.

I think that's what most people's idea of it was.

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:42 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Bull killed a man, so the bull and the cow that spawned him must die. Can't have that bloodline evolving further.
Because hey - it may become a *challenge* otherwise.

The man who was attacking it with a sword?
The fuck is wrong with these people?


People kill cattle all the time, and it usually has nothing to do with anything the cattle have done.
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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:44 am

IF you are against bull fighting, then you should be against the slaughtering of animals. Atleast the bull gets to take its rage out and kill the matadors before he's slaughtered.

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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:05 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:IF you are against bull fighting, then you should be against the slaughtering of animals. Atleast the bull gets to take its rage out and kill the matadors before he's slaughtered.


My sentiments exactly. In the US the bull is prodded into a closed cage and a pneumatic steel bar is pumped into it's skull. In Spain it gets to do what it is made to do and fight for it's life. The revenue is good. It's pain is asuaged by the chance of winning and getting to live.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:08 pm

Spanish bullfighting is meh. Now, the guys at Knossos, that was something.
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Postby Isapito » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:13 pm

Topoliani wrote:I have a neutral stance on it, bulls are just a big pile of bullshit so I don't care about them and bullfighting itself is just kinda weird.

If it was Humans fighting other Humans I would pay 10K for one ticket

Generally gladiator fights weren't to the death, too expensive to waste several well trained slaves every time you'd have a game.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:22 pm

Maichuko wrote:Huh, until now all my information about Bullfighting came from cartoons. Just learned about that whole Sword stabby stabby part.

There was that one Casper cartoon that made the objective quite clear.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:23 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:IF you are against bull fighting, then you should be against the slaughtering of animals. Atleast the bull gets to take its rage out and kill the matadors before he's slaughtered.

No.
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