[r] troll, General/Explosion in Tube

[Risottia]

Muslims aren't going to change our religion to make the kafireen feel better. If it's our mindset you're talking about, ok. But Al-Islam is Al-Islam.

Pretty sure it as been ruled earlier that the use of "kafir", "kafireen" in such context is actionable.

[Old Tyrannia]

Got it.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Why was my post deleted?

[USS Monitor]

Why was my post deleted?

The log says it was self-deleted by you. Maybe you accidentally hit the wrong button?

If you said anything important in that post, you'll have to tell us again because we don't have the ability to retrieve deleted posts.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Oh ok:
Why are Arabic words soooo bad now?

[Wrapper]

They aren't. Just the derogatory ones.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

They aren't. Just the derogatory ones.

So I can't use the word 'disbeliever'?
Kafir is not a derogatory word. It's a word that means someone who disbelieves in Al-Islam.

[Wrapper]

The word "kafir" isn't derogatory in Arabic.

Please; the Mod based in Dubai knows otherwise.

The Koranic Arabic and colloquial dialectical Arabic meanings have diverged, and both كافر and the plural كفّار are now frequently used in a derogatory fashion in colloquial Arabic while retaining a far more neutral Koranic sense.

So let's not play all innocent here. If someone knows enough Classical Arabic to know the Koranic meaning, I find it very difficult to believe that they'd be blissfully unaware of the derogatory common colloquial meaning.

Given the inability of all but a tiny minority of people using these forums to distinguish between the Classical and colloquial meanings, I'd strongly recommend steering clear of a direct transliteration of the word into English unless you're making it absolutely and unambiguously clear that you're using it in the strict Koranic sense.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Please; the Mod based in Dubai knows otherwise.

The Koranic Arabic and colloquial dialectical Arabic meanings have diverged, and both كافر and the plural كفّار are now frequently used in a derogatory fashion in colloquial Arabic while retaining a far more neutral Koranic sense.

So let's not play all innocent here. If someone knows enough Classical Arabic to know the Koranic meaning, I find it very difficult to believe that they'd be blissfully unaware of the derogatory common colloquial meaning.

Given the inability of all but a tiny minority of people using these forums to distinguish between the Classical and colloquial meanings, I'd strongly recommend steering clear of a direct transliteration of the word into English unless you're making it absolutely and unambiguously clear that you're using it in the strict Koranic sense.

So some people use it in a derogatory manner. So?

[Wrapper]

So, don't. We're done here. If you want to make a final appeal file a GHR.