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[Burma/Myanmar] Rohingya genocide/ethnic cleansing scandal

Postby Minoa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:19 am

Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41224108 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41187517

This is a disgrace in my opinion, especially when a Nobel Peace Prize laureate is acting too slowly to respond to clearly accurate reports of ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya Muslims. If I recall correctly, the military junta stepped aside last year.

Even the BBC has caught it all on camera: there is no denying that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41189564

What are your thoughts on this?

Edit: I’m going to use both terms because it seems genocide and ethnic cleansing are being used interchangeably (source, source and source), but neither seems to downplay the fact that it is still repression against people solely on the basis of their religion.
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Postby Kingdom of Tunisia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:25 am

Wait, are you telling me that she have become hateful towards Muslims?
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:32 am

Minoa wrote:Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41224108 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41187517

This is a disgrace in my opinion, especially when a Nobel Peace Prize laureate is acting too slowly to respond to clearly accurate reports of ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya Muslims. If I recall correctly, the military junta stepped aside last year.

Even the BBC has caught it all on camera: there is no denying that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41189564

What are your thoughts on this?

Sounds like an internal issue to me. So nothing to see here, move along.
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Postby Heavelia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:37 am

I think that it's a disgrace for a Nobel Peace Prize winner to be so quick in dismissing the Rohinya's pain and suffering as some issues or protests. It was all lies, when she said that she would defend democracy and humans. So in our Highness's point of view, the Rohinyas are not humans just because they are from a different race and religion. Shame on you Ms Aung San Syu Kyi
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:41 am

Can someone be de-Nobel Prized? This is extremely unacceptable from someone who is supposed to be an example of the good of humankind.

As for the genocide, it boggles the mind how people can do that sort of shit to other people. So much cruelty and hate.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:43 am

What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:45 am

Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...


There's literally photographic and video evidence of genocide. How can you see clear pictures of burning villages and then downplay it?
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Postby Yorkshire and Humberside » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:46 am

Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...


"I think genocide is bad, actually"

"LOL get a load of THIS nerd on the got damn outrage bandwagon"
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:51 am

Yorkshire and Humberside wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...


"I think genocide is bad, actually"

"LOL get a load of THIS nerd on the got damn outrage bandwagon"

It's only genocide after it has been declared such by the relevant authorities such as the UN human rights thing as opposed to the BBC.

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Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...


There's literally photographic and video evidence of genocide. How can you see clear pictures of burning villages and then downplay it?

Genocide is not the same as killing people. It's killing people as part of a deliberate organized effort to exterminate the group they belong to. You can show me all the corpses you want but you have not shown a single shred of evidence for intent.
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Postby Calladan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:52 am

Minoa wrote:Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41224108 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41187517

This is a disgrace in my opinion, especially when a Nobel Peace Prize laureate is acting too slowly to respond to clearly accurate reports of ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya Muslims. If I recall correctly, the military junta stepped aside last year.

Even the BBC has caught it all on camera: there is no denying that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41189564

What are your thoughts on this?


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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:14 am

Purpelia wrote:
Yorkshire and Humberside wrote:
"I think genocide is bad, actually"

"LOL get a load of THIS nerd on the got damn outrage bandwagon"

It's only genocide after it has been declared such by the relevant authorities such as the UN human rights thing as opposed to the BBC.

Albrenia wrote:
There's literally photographic and video evidence of genocide. How can you see clear pictures of burning villages and then downplay it?

Genocide is not the same as killing people. It's killing people as part of a deliberate organized effort to exterminate the group they belong to. You can show me all the corpses you want but you have not shown a single shred of evidence for intent.

TIL thousands of dead Rohingya + a complicit Nobel Prize winner + Buddhist extremists egging the government on =/= evidence of genocide.

It may not be genocide yet, but it should be obviously clear to anybody looking at it that the Rohingya are being persecuted for being Rohingya.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:17 am

Purpelia wrote:
Yorkshire and Humberside wrote:
"I think genocide is bad, actually"

"LOL get a load of THIS nerd on the got damn outrage bandwagon"

It's only genocide after it has been declared such by the relevant authorities such as the UN human rights thing as opposed to the BBC.

Albrenia wrote:
There's literally photographic and video evidence of genocide. How can you see clear pictures of burning villages and then downplay it?

Genocide is not the same as killing people. It's killing people as part of a deliberate organized effort to exterminate the group they belong to. You can show me all the corpses you want but you have not shown a single shred of evidence for intent.

Nobody, at l;east in the western Allies, believed the true extent of the Holocaust until they liberated the camps. Doesn't mean that the Holocaust wasn't an actual genocide before that point.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:36 am

See this is one of the reasons why I scoff every time someone brings up Buddhism as a religion that's "good".
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:38 am

Alvecia wrote:See this is one of the reasons why I scoff every time someone brings up Buddhism as a religion that's "good".


So we're passing judgement based on the actions of extremists within the government and military?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:41 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Alvecia wrote:See this is one of the reasons why I scoff every time someone brings up Buddhism as a religion that's "good".


So we're passing judgement based on the actions of extremists within the government and military?

Pretty sure that people who do that don't limit themselves judging one religion.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:41 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Alvecia wrote:See this is one of the reasons why I scoff every time someone brings up Buddhism as a religion that's "good".


So we're passing judgement based on the actions of extremists within the government and military?

Using this an example that no religion is any better than the other when it comes to wielding fundamentalism.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:48 am

Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...

Got to have a good long think about whether it's bad for all these people to be killed and raped and driven from their homes.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What a world we live in that not instantly jumping on the outrage bandwagon without carefully examining things is reason for condemnation...

Got to have a good long think about whether it's bad for all these people to be killed and raped and driven from their homes.

Well let's look at the qualifications...
"1: Are they in a European Country?"
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"2. Are they white/European ethnic?"
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"3. Are they Christian?"
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"4. Have they been on the news?"
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"Results: Not a 'real' genocide"
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:01 am

A fucking travesty.

Unfortunately the Nobel Committee has already clarified that there are no take-backsies.
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G-Tech Corporation wrote:A fucking travesty.

Unfortunately the Nobel Committee has already clarified that there are no take-backsies.

Not even if we cross our fingers and say there are?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:07 am

Sovaal wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:A fucking travesty.

Unfortunately the Nobel Committee has already clarified that there are no take-backsies.

Not even if we cross our fingers and say there are?


Not as such, no. Neither Nobel's will nor the operating rules of the committee provide any mechanism for the removal of the award.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:09 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Not even if we cross our fingers and say there are?


Not as such, no. Neither Nobel's will nor the operating rules of the committee provide any mechanism for the removal of the award.

Well now we only have one choice: invent time travel, and send an agent back in time to kill Nobel and assume his place, just to have a clause of Nobel Prize revocation.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:10 am

Honestly. it's a fucking embarrasment that at the 21st century, there are still people who kill, torture, rape, and drive away others based on race, religion, or anything.

The Fact that the Western world hasn't done anything (Beyond writing witty editorials about it) is not much of a surprise however.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:12 am

Pilarcraft wrote:Honestly. it's a fucking embarrasment that at the 21st century, there are still people who kill, torture, rape, and drive away others based on race, religion, or anything.

The Fact that the Western world hasn't done anything (Beyond writing witty editorials about it) is not much of a surprise however.

If only we could convince people that Aung San Suu Kyi was developing weapons of mass destruction...
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