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[Unibot III]

Brief Paragraph of Addendum to address Unibot's point (He posted while I was.) You realize that me admitting this mistake is terrible politically because it puts me on a side opposite my own allies, right? You realize that the best political decision for me would have been to not do what I am doing, right? You realize that this is an objectively bad move if I was going from a pure political standpoint, and we killed an alliance with LWU over this? That when it comes to the established stance of the OFO, it would have been better from a pure, pragmatic political standpoint for me to stand by a failing operation and go down with the ship than it would have been to meet TRR, TSP, and the NPO at the table? This whole thing, tactically, was a terrible idea. It was optimism, but not in the way you articulate it.

I think you misunderstood my post, the pragmatism was a reference to Tim/Roavin - GR had accused them of 'rosy optimism.' I've praised your conduct here and I suggested that Osiris may have supported UDoL and opposed the Khanate in part because of the history of the Osiran Imperium War; Osiris has been under foreign occupation (Gatesville) and required regime change to overcome its instability.

(My apologies if I wasn't clear.)

However to respond to your concerns: I think there's a possibility that in the future, this crisis could end as a sinkerite success story. Three sinker regions may move forward from this crisis with a stronger sense of mutual respect, the foundation of any good working relationship. I think the only political loser in this story will end up being Balder for their short-sightedness and lack of appreciation for autonomous government.

(You can now promptly accuse me of rosy optimism. )

TL;DR: This is actually in large part your fault, Glen-Rhodes. Shame on you. I'm glad the South Pacific's external affairs are now in more capable hands.

This seems deeply unfair to GR. If GR had shut his trap I don't think it'd have changed your stance or any of the reasoning you explained in that post. He was one of many individuals, including those 'capable hands,' voicing the same indictment of the UDoL verbatim. A call for reconciliation and a moratorium on recriminations is indeed appropriate, but it's a two-way street - it includes GR as much as you.

[Tim Stark]

In other news, it would look that the Convention in Lazarus is going really well so far, and both the Discord and Forum are full of plenty of vibrant activity! There maybe a few too many Constitutional Drafts, but that's nothing that continued hearty debate can't fix!

While I can't speak for the other Peacekeeper regions, The South Pacific is really proud of the work we've accomplished so far in the re-stabilization of Lazarus and would like to thank The East Pacific, The Pacific, The Rejected Realms, Osiris, and The West Pacific for participating in this endeavor with us. Oh, and obviously a big HAIL o/ to AnarQueen Imki.

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

I can speak for the rest of TRR's cabinet by saying I am very happy about what's going down now in Lazarus, and I believe this ConCon will build a fresh and prosperous Lazarus.

[Drop Your Pants]

I can speak for the rest of TRR's cabinet by saying I am very happy about what's going down now in Lazarus, and I believe this ConCon will build a fresh and prosperous Lazarus.

Can you? Thought you were Outreach not FA.

[Escade]

Why do we play this game?

Some of us remain in fixed positions in the sky, while others move across different GP modes:

This,

Or, this
(Spoilers for WestWorld so view at your own risk)

Or, this

Or, this

Or, this

Or, this

Sometimes a little bit of it all and sometimes too much of one thing and not enough of the rest. This is why we need balance in the Force

From what I've observed having joined the Lazarus Discord and forums fairly recently, it's been going well! I've never been to a constitutional convention before and this one is full of great minds really working hard to bring a well built government into existence. Civil discourse abounds in discussions. If I ever get to making my mermaids UCR I will know who to ask for help on creating a government

The hardest thing I think in this game, or maybe in general, is to admit to making a mistake or bad choice or otherwise admit that you might be culpable as well (or even apologizing for doing wrong). Possibly if it happened more often we wouldn't have these levels of hostility between players, over a game, that are not replicated in any other form of entertainment.

This convention is a bold new move! This level of cooperation between regions, especially the major players of the game, has not been seen before and is exciting to watch! I'm glad that Imki has changed up the game and given it some new life and a lot of hope.

P.S. Special shout outs to my physics tutors on the Lazarus Discord

[Consular]

I can speak for the rest of TRR's cabinet by saying I am very happy about what's going down now in Lazarus, and I believe this ConCon will build a fresh and prosperous Lazarus.

What's with the weird coloured text lol

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

I can speak for the rest of TRR's cabinet by saying I am very happy about what's going down now in Lazarus, and I believe this ConCon will build a fresh and prosperous Lazarus.

Can you? Thought you were Outreach not FA.

Fratt has released an update showing he is delighted about what's going down in Laz, so yes, yes I can.

I can speak for the rest of TRR's cabinet by saying I am very happy about what's going down now in Lazarus, and I believe this ConCon will build a fresh and prosperous Lazarus.

What's with the weird coloured text lol

Purple, TRR's color.

[Syberis]

Can you? Thought you were Outreach not FA.

Fratt has released an update showing he is delighted about what's going down in Laz, so yes, yes I can.

What's with the weird coloured text lol

Purple, TRR's color.

Can confirm that shade of purple text is unreadable on dark theme tho

[Consular]

Fratt has released an update showing he is delighted about what's going down in Laz, so yes, yes I can.



Purple, TRR's color.

Can confirm that shade of purple text is unreadable on dark theme tho

Yeah any kind of blue is pretty garish

[Drop Your Pants]

Fratt has released an update showing he is delighted about what's going down in Laz, so yes, yes I can.

Yes he has. And thats because its his job as FA minister

[Fratt]

I get to decide whether MM can be happy about stuff? Neat.

[Drop Your Pants]

I get to decide whether MM can be happy about stuff? Neat.

Ah sush

[Solorni]

With New Rogernomics forum account deleted (likely by himself and not foul play); it would appear that Lazarus has moved past their Era of Good Feelings.

[Tupelope]

Can you? Thought you were Outreach not FA.

Fratt has released an update showing he is delighted about what's going down in Laz, so yes, yes I can.

fratts only happy cuz his subversion has likely caused another sinker to go fenda smh

[Unibot III]

With New Rogernomics forum account deleted (likely by himself and not foul play); it would appear that Lazarus has moved past their Era of Good Feelings.

Back to the Era of Oppressive Foreign Occupation and Shameless Imperialist Astroturfing then? No? I guess you'll have to take your ball and go home.

[Cormactopia Prime]

With New Rogernomics forum account deleted (likely by himself and not foul play); it would appear that Lazarus has moved past their Era of Good Feelings.

Because people getting mad and occasionally acting rash is completely exclusive to Lazarus, and not at all a general feature of human interaction.

Interpersonal conflicts happen everywhere. That there has been one between two people in Lazarus is not necessarily indicative of a larger problem in Lazarus, as much as Balderans may like there to be a larger problem so they can point to it as rationalization for Balder supporting an invasion of Lazarus. Unfortunately for Balder, no matter how they try to rationalize it, there is no justification for what Balder did to a fellow Sinker. That's why Balder is now left out in the cold, totally isolated in its vitriolic disdain for Lazarus, while every other Feeder and Sinker is assisting Lazarus or has at least offered to assist Lazarus in recovering from the institutional and community destruction Lone Wolves United inflicted with Balder's unwavering and unabashed support.

[Consular]

With New Rogernomics forum account deleted (likely by himself and not foul play); it would appear that Lazarus has moved past their Era of Good Feelings.

Don't let that distract you from how Balder lost. You remember that right? It was fairly recent and fairly amusing.

[Solorni]

With New Rogernomics forum account deleted (likely by himself and not foul play); it would appear that Lazarus has moved past their Era of Good Feelings.

Because people getting mad and occasionally acting rash is completely exclusive to Lazarus, and not at all a general feature of human interaction.

Interpersonal conflicts happen everywhere. That there has been one between two people in Lazarus is not necessarily indicative of a larger problem in Lazarus

Three Notes;

Firstly, while people getting mad and occasionally acting rash is fairly normal... the deletion of forum accounts because of such conflicts is not really as normal.

Secondly, in my statement I never stated or even hinted at a larger problem in Lazarus. So that idea is all yours and anyone else who mentioned it. A cursory google search of the famous phrase "Era of Good Feelings" would have informed you that this is a historical term for the period in American history between 1817–1825. It was then followed by the "Jacksonian democracy era", but that is less important than the fact that "Era of Good Feelings" seemed like a really good description for Lazarus in the brief period of harmony it experienced.

"The era saw the collapse of the Federalist Party and an end to the bitter partisan disputes between it and the dominant Democratic-Republican Party during the First Party System."

An end to the Era of Good Feelings does not mean danger ahead.

Thirdly, to add my thoughts to the novel point you brought up about whether or not it is indicative of larger problems... I would say that it is indicative that this Lazarus is not a fresh start but a return to the conflicted period prior to the Undead Dominion of Lazarus exemplified most recently by the Celestial Union. It is not so much a fresh start as it is a return to what Lazarus struggled with before. As I've noted to you previously; the granting of prominent positions to players such as Harmoneia and others who are so central to the struggles and instability of Lazarus was a mistake.

The years of success that Balder has enjoyed compared to Lazarus' over the same period are not because Balder is naturally superior. But rather it is because of the decisions that people have taken over the years in Balder to develop our philosophy, system, community and culture that stand in contrast with the decisions people have taken over the years in Lazarus. It is noteworthy that Balder's philosophy has been based primarily upon thinkers like John Locke & Benjamin Constant whose writings were strongly influenced by the horrors of the English Civil War & French Revolution respectively and very well summed up by Benjamin Constant as:

"The Liberty of the Moderns, in contrast, was based on the possession of civil liberties, the rule of law, and freedom from excessive state interference."

Which are all values that players like Harmoneia and others purposefully threw out of Lazarus when they supported the purges of citizens such as Griffin. It is clear that this difference of values has led to major differences between the two sinkers. On the one hand, Balder having no purges at all in its history and on the other hand Lazarus having frequent purges since they decided that they did not value civil liberties and the rule of law.

But you might be right and thus that I have no idea how to make a stable & active sinker!

[Unibot III]

The lecture on post-revolution America was probably unnecessary to justify your spiteful, passive aggressive remark. You also shouldn’t have directed your smartass comment at the guy who stabilized Osiris and rooted out the Empire; your only experience is a half a decade as a monarch of a half-dead Sinker region - you saw an opportunity to capture a sinker region for your geopolitical cause and you pounced at it at all costs to the region and its autonomy.

[RiderSyl]

Okay, since I'm not Rach, I'll bring it up.

New Rogernomics' forum account is gone. What Lazarus most needs right now is stability, and a major member leaving is the opposite of that. So, guys, what the hell?

[Fratt]

Okay, since I'm not Rach, I'll bring it up.

New Rogernomics' forum account is gone. What Lazarus most needs right now is stability, and a major member leaving is the opposite of that. So, guys, what the hell?

It happened after the exchange here, which you should be able to see.
And he's already back with a new account.

[Tim-Opolis]

Okay, since I'm not Rach, I'll bring it up.

New Rogernomics' forum account is gone. What Lazarus most needs right now is stability, and a major member leaving is the opposite of that. So, guys, what the hell?

Given that NR had already returned prior to you making this post, the only "what the hell?" that seems applicable is in asking why this post had to be made.

Nice to see Balder salty as hell still, though, that always adds for a spot of amusement.

[Drop Your Pants]

It happened after the exchange here, which you should be able to see.
And he's already back with a new account.

I nearly fell for that. Opened the link and 'Oh another Laz forum, i'll sign up'. Bugger that

[Feux]

It happened after the exchange here, which you should be able to see.
And he's already back with a new account.

I nearly fell for that. Opened the link and 'Oh another Laz forum, i'll sign up'. Bugger that

I remember it being a bit of a pain just to get you to sign up for the first one I made.

[Drop Your Pants]

I remember it being a bit of a pain just to get you to sign up for the first one I made.

I was probably trying to retire from Ns