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Kedri
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Setting Up a Government

Postby Kedri » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:03 pm

Ahoy! We be leaders of Kedri, a country, or what's left of it, that be in a state o' chaos. I be Bartholomew Harrison, President of the Council, the provisional governmen' of our jewel known as Kedri.

The Council is made up of former pirates who would give their hand and foot to see Kedri turn from her pirating ways and into a modern nation. We want to talk with ye 'bout setting' up a new government fer us. We want suggestions for creating a democratic government that will help modernize Kedri and improve our infrastructure well as standard of living.
Kedri is a nation of 18th century pirates who know water-bending. Throw in some steampunk, as well. Tech level is PT/FanT.
Kedrians abandon piracy and become a modernized country, founded by reformed criminals who forsook piracy and the citizens are descended from pirates, and still retain some of their heritage such as speech, accent, politics.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:39 pm

Why go with a democratic government when a monarchy is better? You should guide your people, not the other way around.
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Postby Kedri » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:54 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:Why go with a democratic government when a monarchy is better? You should guide your people, not the other way around.


We had a Pirate King, but the position has been abolished since our civil war due to some embarrassing blunders he made. Since we have abandoned piracy, he wouldn't really be a "Pirate" King now would he? Aside from that Kedri, doesn't really have a strong monarchical tradition, and the King was elected.
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Kedrians abandon piracy and become a modernized country, founded by reformed criminals who forsook piracy and the citizens are descended from pirates, and still retain some of their heritage such as speech, accent, politics.

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Postby Westwickport » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:19 pm



Ahoy hoy! No nay ne'er say no nay ne'er to an elective monarchy; parliamentary democracy. Legitimacy of the Crown, power to the people. Arrr. Cap'ns of the ship be electin' the King; feed the fishes, be elected as King. Me hearty said such be best for a nation state such as Kedri!
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:40 am

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Postby Kedri » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:52 pm

Arrr! Bump
Kedri is a nation of 18th century pirates who know water-bending. Throw in some steampunk, as well. Tech level is PT/FanT.
Kedrians abandon piracy and become a modernized country, founded by reformed criminals who forsook piracy and the citizens are descended from pirates, and still retain some of their heritage such as speech, accent, politics.

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Postby Kash Island » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:55 pm

Constitutional Republic would be excellent, can't go wrong with that.

you can even add your own spice to it

perhaps with your pirate past, a Anarchist Constitutional Republic?
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Postby Kedri » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:40 pm

Kash Island wrote:Constitutional Republic would be excellent, can't go wrong with that.

you can even add your own spice to it

perhaps with your pirate past, a Anarchist Constitutional Republic?


iPad thinking something like a constitutional republic with a monarchist confederation.
Kedri is a nation of 18th century pirates who know water-bending. Throw in some steampunk, as well. Tech level is PT/FanT.
Kedrians abandon piracy and become a modernized country, founded by reformed criminals who forsook piracy and the citizens are descended from pirates, and still retain some of their heritage such as speech, accent, politics.

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Postby Kash Island » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:57 pm

Kedri wrote:
Kash Island wrote:Constitutional Republic would be excellent, can't go wrong with that.

you can even add your own spice to it

perhaps with your pirate past, a Anarchist Constitutional Republic?


iPad thinking something like a constitutional republic with a monarchist confederation.


so a Confederal Constitutional Monarchy

sounds like the United Kingdom but with more automony to regions.
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Postby Kedri » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:19 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Kedri wrote:
iPad thinking something like a constitutional republic with a monarchist confederation.


so a Confederal Constitutional Monarchy

sounds like the United Kingdom but with more automony to regions.


I meant minarchist, blame autocorrect
Kedri is a nation of 18th century pirates who know water-bending. Throw in some steampunk, as well. Tech level is PT/FanT.
Kedrians abandon piracy and become a modernized country, founded by reformed criminals who forsook piracy and the citizens are descended from pirates, and still retain some of their heritage such as speech, accent, politics.

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Postby Danceria » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:30 pm

'Hoy thar. It'd be wise o' ye to run th' government like one runs yer crew, in a semi-presedential oligarchic dictatorship! What Oi means is this:

Ye got yer cap'n, see? An' 'e's a right stubborn fellow, good at fightin' an' gettin' th' crew motivated. 'E should be th' master 'o parties an' th' wager o' wars, an' be th' voice of th' crew ta other ships/nations. Tha'll be yer President-Fer-Loife or Consul o' king, o' wha'ever fits yer fancy.

Then ye got yerself yer Quartermaster: 'E's tha brains behind th' operations, makes sure the crew runs like a greased wheel. 'E be your Prime Minister an' the voice of the gubment to yer people, an' someone yer Cap'n trusts. He's got ta be firm, tough, an' knows 'is numbers. Most of all, he's got to be loyal, an ta' make sure that there be no backhanded dealin' an' plots 'o mutiny about ya, by thunder!

Thirdly, ya got yerself a First Mate, who works kinda like yer Cap'n, 'cept 'is number one priority is ta' get the voices o' the crew an their concerns ta' the quartermaster, th' council, o' the cap'n.

Lastly: there be a bicameral council. Tha' means, there's an upper " 'ouse o' Mates", Mates from th' other regions an their cap'n's bring wi' em their worries an concerns. Th' lower 'ouse is based off o' proportional representation, an' is the common bloke ta make sure the Mates are bein' right honest.

This system can be replicated, as a means of checks an' balances against itself, an ta make sure every man is 'is master, as is the Law o' the Pirates first an' foremost!
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Postby Free Transhumanists » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Kedri wrote:Ahoy! We be leaders of Kedri, a country, or what's left of it, that be in a state o' chaos. I be Bartholomew Harrison, President of the Council, the provisional governmen' of our jewel known as Kedri.

The Council is made up of former pirates who would give their hand and foot to see Kedri turn from her pirating ways and into a modern nation. We want to talk with ye 'bout setting' up a new government fer us. We want suggestions for creating a democratic government that will help modernize Kedri and improve our infrastructure well as standard of living.


A good government must be effective in responding to needs and demands, yet it can't be in chaos. We would recommend involving a liberal corporativistic system for mediation of interests in your society. Corporativism is effective, quick and kinda universal, it can be used by almost any type of government plus it really speeds up and stimulates those groups of interests and sectors that you want. For example my nation is based on free market so I would be probably prioritizing realization of interests of corporations and unions of heavy industry and services over the other sectors.
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Postby Nation State Tracker » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:42 pm

According to, uhm, my encyclopedia of Nation State Tracker... files downloading.... ping. Kedri. Speaks like a pirate. Acts like a pirate. National population: inconclusive. State religion: Affirmative. Downloading recommendation...

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We recommend an elective monarchy with the Pirate King in charge of four pirate states; overseeing local government authorities organised as the 'island'. The legislature must be unicameral in practice, for the purpose of budget streamlining. A bicameral legislature may be adopted in the future to replace the unicameral legislature - a House of Representative; a House of Pirates - to meet population growth forecast.

We recommend a unitary judicature to avoid some of the common pitfalls in a state-to-federal judicature. Just take a peek at the United States of America versus Litigation. Oh boy, do we really wanna go there matey'?

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Postby Danceria » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:13 pm

Nation State Tracker wrote:According to, uhm, my encyclopedia of Nation State Tracker... files downloading.... ping. Kedri. Speaks like a pirate. Acts like a pirate. National population: inconclusive. State religion: Affirmative. Downloading recommendation...

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We recommend an elective monarchy with the Pirate King in charge of four pirate states; overseeing local government authorities organised as the 'island'. The legislature must be unicameral in practice, for the purpose of budget streamlining. A bicameral legislature may be adopted in the future to replace the unicameral legislature - a House of Representative; a House of Pirates - to meet population growth forecast.

We recommend a unitary judicature to avoid some of the common pitfalls in a state-to-federal judicature. Just take a peek at the United States of America versus Litigation. Oh boy, do we really wanna go there matey'?

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Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
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Postby Fatatatutti » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:21 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Why go with a democratic government when a monarchy is better? You should guide your people, not the other way around.

OOC: From an RP point of view, democracy gives a much wider scope: hundreds of loony legislators versus one loon.


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