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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:24 pm

Vulpes are majestic creatures, and yet the news about vulpes has been mostly negative. Just look at this charming fellow:

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And yet, we have such bad images of the fox. In fairy tales, the fox steals the crow's cheese, comes off as arrogant in the "Fox and the Cat"... The fox is generally viewed as a trickster, and we better watch out for the fox.

However, the fox forms an integral part of the ecosystem. Even the fox's sexual characteristics are worth noting: The male fox's scrotum is held up close to the body with the testes inside even after they descend. Like other canines, the male fox has a baculum, or penile bone. The testes of red foxes are smaller than those of Arctic foxes. Sperm formation in red foxes begins in August–September, with the testicles attaining their greatest weight in December–February.

How can we be so mean to these guys? What did they ever do to the Grimm Brothers?

I think that we should rehabilitate vulpes, and stop scaring our kids with news of the Vulpes Scare.

What does NSG say about vulpes? Or about Cerdocyon? Or Dusicyon? Or Lycalopex? Or Otocyon? Or Urocyon?
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:28 pm

Shofercia wrote:Vulpes are majestic creatures, and yet the news about vulpes has been mostly negative. Just look at this charming fellow:

(Image)

And yet, we have such bad images of the fox. In fairy tales, the fox steals the crow's cheese, comes off as arrogant in the "Fox and the Cat"... The fox is generally viewed as a trickster, and we better watch out for the fox.

However, the fox forms an integral part of the ecosystem. Even the fox's sexual characteristics are worth noting: The male fox's scrotum is held up close to the body with the testes inside even after they descend. Like other canines, the male fox has a baculum, or penile bone. The testes of red foxes are smaller than those of Arctic foxes. Sperm formation in red foxes begins in August–September, with the testicles attaining their greatest weight in December–February.

How can we be so mean to these guys? What did they ever do to the Grimm Brothers?

I think that we should rehabilitate vulpes, and stop scaring our kids with news of the Vulpes Scare.

What does NSG say about vulpes? Or about Cerdocyon? Or Dusicyon? Or Lycalopex? Or Otocyon? Or Urocyon?

I hate it when foxes steal my chickens, but I would rather put up a fence then kill one.

Wasn't there Soviet/Russian project to domesticate gray foxes to see how domestication affected animals?
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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:32 pm

To be honest, I've knever really thought about why foxes are always considered to be "evil" animals. My guess would be that the tradition comes from foxes hunting various farm animals and causing the farmers much annoyance. As well as them being unable to be farmed themselves. Given the rather utilitarian outlook on life back then this might mean that foxes were regarded as evil animals. This general dissatisfaction would later make its way into stories.

In modern days we probably still regard foxes as "evil" out of force of habit and the sheer volume of stories that label them as such. This creates a self-perpetuating belief in the evilness of foxes as each generation reads the stories of the last and writes new ones for the future. Like any things this hatred is highly unlikely to be undone within one century and will take hundreds of years to dissipate completely. Then maybe sheep might become the cunning, sly villains.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:39 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Vulpes are majestic creatures, and yet the news about vulpes has been mostly negative. Just look at this charming fellow:

(Image)

And yet, we have such bad images of the fox. In fairy tales, the fox steals the crow's cheese, comes off as arrogant in the "Fox and the Cat"... The fox is generally viewed as a trickster, and we better watch out for the fox.

However, the fox forms an integral part of the ecosystem. Even the fox's sexual characteristics are worth noting: The male fox's scrotum is held up close to the body with the testes inside even after they descend. Like other canines, the male fox has a baculum, or penile bone. The testes of red foxes are smaller than those of Arctic foxes. Sperm formation in red foxes begins in August–September, with the testicles attaining their greatest weight in December–February.

How can we be so mean to these guys? What did they ever do to the Grimm Brothers?

I think that we should rehabilitate vulpes, and stop scaring our kids with news of the Vulpes Scare.

What does NSG say about vulpes? Or about Cerdocyon? Or Dusicyon? Or Lycalopex? Or Otocyon? Or Urocyon?

I hate it when foxes steal my chickens, but I would rather put up a fence then kill one.

Wasn't there Soviet/Russian project to domesticate gray foxes to see how domestication affected animals?

Yes, they become adorable hyper doggos.
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Postby De Almerland » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:30 pm

My main problem with foxes are they are overpopulated in cities, and they create messes by tipping over bins.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:39 pm

Shofercia wrote:How can we be so mean to these guys?


How?

Well, you start by rounding up some British gentlemen, hounds and horses. Serve some light refreshment, something apt for a morning, like anything consisting of gin for at least half of its mass. Then someone blows a horn, the hounds are unleashed, and there's a general trampling of crops at the hooves of noble steeds. Someone else yells "tally ho!".
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:42 pm

Huh. This isn't going where I thought it would
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:46 pm

Well done OP.
And I hate foxes because of that STUPID FUCKING SONG.
You all know the one.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:Well done OP.
And I hate foxes because of that STUPID FUCKING SONG.
You all know the one.

What does the fox say?! :twisted:
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Well done OP.
And I hate foxes because of that STUPID FUCKING SONG.
You all know the one.

What does the fox say?! :twisted:

That does it! Get my shotgun!
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:52 pm

Aclion wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I hate it when foxes steal my chickens, but I would rather put up a fence then kill one.

Wasn't there Soviet/Russian project to domesticate gray foxes to see how domestication affected animals?

Yes, they become adorable hyper doggos.


Look at how adorable they are:

Image



Kenmoria wrote:To be honest, I've knever really thought about why foxes are always considered to be "evil" animals. My guess would be that the tradition comes from foxes hunting various farm animals and causing the farmers much annoyance. As well as them being unable to be farmed themselves. Given the rather utilitarian outlook on life back then this might mean that foxes were regarded as evil animals. This general dissatisfaction would later make its way into stories.

In modern days we probably still regard foxes as "evil" out of force of habit and the sheer volume of stories that label them as such. This creates a self-perpetuating belief in the evilness of foxes as each generation reads the stories of the last and writes new ones for the future. Like any things this hatred is highly unlikely to be undone within one century and will take hundreds of years to dissipate completely. Then maybe sheep might become the cunning, sly villains.


But they're not forming the evil mammal empire! I think that if we work on ourselves, we can change our opinion of these majestic mammals.


Risottia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:How can we be so mean to these guys?


How?

Well, you start by rounding up some British gentlemen, hounds and horses. Serve some light refreshment, something apt for a morning, like anything consisting of gin for at least half of its mass. Then someone blows a horn, the hounds are unleashed, and there's a general trampling of crops at the hooves of noble steeds. Someone else yells "tally ho!".


That's not very nice. Sounds like something David Cameron would do.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I'm the only one who made a Melee reference? Aw....

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Genivaria wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I'm the only one who made a Melee reference? Aw....

DO A BARREL ROLL!

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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Huh. This isn't going where I thought it would


You thought that NSG will support the oppression of vulpes? NSG is better than that! We support the oppression of Republicans and/or Democrats.


Genivaria wrote:Well done OP.
And I hate foxes because of that STUPID FUCKING SONG.
You all know the one.


It's not that bad, when compared to this Rick Roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
And yet we don't have scary childhood Rick Astley stories now, do we?


Genivaria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What does the fox say?! :twisted:

That does it! Get my shotgun!


It's being borrowed at the moment:

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:59 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That does it! Get my shotgun!


It's being borrowed at the moment:

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>rifle

Thats not a shotgun

>dead bunnys

*H E R E S Y*
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:01 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Shofercia wrote:

It's being borrowed at the moment:



>rifle

Thats not a shotgun

>dead bunnys

*H E R E S Y*


Gen's shotgun's deep & dark secret: It's actually a rifle :P

And what's wrong with a few dead bunnies? Fox McCloud's gotta eat!
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:05 pm

Shofercia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
>rifle

Thats not a shotgun

>dead bunnys

*H E R E S Y*


Gen's shotgun's deep & dark secret: It's actually a rifle :P

And what's wrong with a few dead bunnies? Fox McCloud's gotta eat!

And he can't eat fish or bugs?
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:08 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Gen's shotgun's deep & dark secret: It's actually a rifle :P

And what's wrong with a few dead bunnies? Fox McCloud's gotta eat!

And he can't eat fish or bugs?


Does this look like a bug eater to you: http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Fox_McCloud ?

Fish is good, but we gotta vary our diet.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:12 pm

Shofercia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And he can't eat fish or bugs?


Does this look like a bug eater to you: http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Fox_McCloud ?

Fish is good, but we gotta vary our diet.


Hey, if Simba could....
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:14 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:Even better: title a thread Fox News and make it about vulpes.


Just going to leave that here :P

And with that, let's get back on topic - so how would a pro-vulpes fairy tale look like?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:47 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Even better: title a thread Fox News and make it about vulpes.


Just going to leave that here :P

And with that, let's get back on topic - so how would a pro-vulpes fairy tale look like?


It would end with the words "Mishon Compreet"

Also, and I can't believe that I didn't say this earlier, Fox and buns can indeed be frends.
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