{draft) Repeal #1/replacement

[Keshiland]

Noting- that this will be controversial
Wishing- that it was more of a government and less of a common wealth
hoping- for a stronger grander world body.

replacement
The World Congress.

I- The election
a- The WA members elect 31 members to the Congress every 60 days

II- Power
a-The Congress gets the sole power to introduce and pass legislation
b- Congress appoints 3 judges

III- Legality
a- the judges vote on each passed law is legal
b- ruling is final

[States of Glory WA Office]

OOC: It is literally impossible to repeal GA #1.

[Siniarus XVII]

OOC: GA proposals aren't allowed to affect game mechanics; this would do so by completely overhauling the WA voting system.

[Tinfect Diplomatic Enclave]

OOC:
It is literally mechanically impossible to repeal GA1, and your 'replacement', is far from an improvement.

[Lexicor]

<ooc> I'm convinced that this is trolling at this point... </ooc>

[Imperium Anglorum]

<ooc> I'm convinced that this is trolling at this point... </ooc>

This.

[Thermodolia]

You should have stopped a long long time ago dude

[Wolflandil]

I completely disagree with this notion.
1-It would be impossible to implement. And even if it was poor Max Barry and all the moderators would have to make the coding and troubleshoot any issues.
2- The WA is a Direct Democracy, with the Idea that every person who plays Nation States can join and have a say.
The idea of a Congress would most likely be dominated by socialists leaving the other groups with out a say. (not bashing socialists here, I just want every one to have a equal voice.) the fact that they would have absolute power would squash any minority political views. How would the congressional nations be pooled in beside common vote? Would it be WA Delegates only? Or open to all WA nations?
3- anything that passes through the WA is able to be repealed, barring any game feature. If a law is passed by the Congress/Judges and the general populous disagree with that law how would they get what they want it its impossible to repeal?
Ooc its not possible to make game features pop into nothing and to be replaced with a player based plan, as the creator is a very busy person, and so are the moderators.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Noting- that this will be controversial
Wishing- that it was more of a government and less of a common wealth
hoping- for a stronger grander world body.

Assuming you're not legislating in a repeal, and that the below is a separate proposal, here we go.

replacement
The World Congress.

I- The election
a- The WA members elect 31 members to the Congress every 60 days

Illegal - game mechanics

II- Power
a-The Congress gets the sole power to introduce and pass legislation

This would be the only legal portion of this resolution - assuming the repeal is successful first, which it won't be, because you literally cannot repeal GAR #1. See, there's no "Repeal This Resolution" button next to it the way there is for every other, even GAR #2.

b- Congress appoints 3 judges

III- Legality
a- the judges vote on each passed law is legal

Illegal - game mechanics.

b- ruling is final

I think the Moderators might have something to say about that.

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I will say again that you need to understand the rules for proposals before you'll be able to write one that has any chance of passing. The relevant link is also in my signature below (listed as "GA Rules").

I sincerely don't want to be rude or condescending, but you've gotta figure out how to act like a big boy around here. An important part of this game (and an important part of life) is being able to internalize and use criticism to improve your understanding and behavior. Right now you're coming off as a spoiled, narcissistic little kid who can't function in a grown-up world. I point to the remarkable provocation that made a moderator (people who are specifically chosen for their good humor, patience, and ability to suffer all the wildly variable idiocies of human behavior on the internet) react like this. I've never seen an NS mod in that high dudgeon before; so, congratulations I guess, but you gotta cut it out.

The patience of the community is not infinite.

[The Sheika]

I know I am not the first one to say it, but present your repeal first (if you actually can repeal the World Assembly) then present a replacement. That said...I don't even know if I should take this seriously.

Noting- that this will be controversial
Wishing- that it was more of a government and less of a common wealth
hoping- for a stronger grander world body.

The problem I have with this is you make it sound as though the WA does not have a backbone or any teeth. Quite the contrary, but in order to see that you need to take the time to understand how things work.

Once again, present your "replacement" later, but since it's here...

replacement
The World Congress.

I- The election
a- The WA members elect 31 members to the Congress every 60 days

So a change in name from World Assembly to World Congress. Meh. Why 31? Seems kind of like an odd number to choose...nevermind that it is preposterous for only 31 nations to somehow represent the rest of the World Congress.

II- Power
a-The Congress gets the sole power to introduce and pass legislation
b- Congress appoints 3 judges

So this World Congress comprised of 31 nations would be the only ones to introduce and pass legislation and the rest as just up a creek? Hmm, doesn't seem right at all. Are you going to recuse yourself from being one of the 31? Forfeit any and all ideas you have and hope for the best from the World Congress? Somehow I strongly doubt that you would be willing to do that, so please refrain from asking the rest of us to do so.

b- Congress appoints 3 judges

III- Legality
a- the judges vote on each passed law is legal
b- ruling is final

This last part I think is wholly pointless, but I reiterate my question. Are you going to recuse yourself from being one of the judges that determines whether or not a law is legal?

[United Massachusetts]

I completely disagree with this notion.
1-It would be impossible to implement. And even if it was poor Max Barry and all the moderators would have to make the coding and troubleshoot any issues.
2- The WA is a Direct Democracy, with the Idea that every person who plays Nation States can join and have a say.
The idea of a Congress would most likely be dominated by socialists leaving the other groups with out a say. (not bashing socialists here, I just want every one to have a equal voice.) the fact that they would have absolute power would squash any minority political views. How would the congressional nations be pooled in beside common vote? Would it be WA Delegates only? Or open to all WA nations?
3- anything that passes through the WA is able to be repealed, barring any game feature. If a law is passed by the Congress/Judges and the general populous disagree with that law how would they get what they want it its impossible to repeal?
Ooc its not possible to make game features pop into nothing and to be replaced with a player based plan, as the creator is a very busy person, and so are the moderators.

The part I bolded here made me laugh terribly. One nation (Pallaith) gets like, 1000 votes

[Wolflandil]

I completely disagree with this notion.
1-It would be impossible to implement. And even if it was poor Max Barry and all the moderators would have to make the coding and troubleshoot any issues.
2- The WA is a Direct Democracy, with the Idea that every person who plays Nation States can join and have a say.
The idea of a Congress would most likely be dominated by socialists leaving the other groups with out a say. (not bashing socialists here, I just want every one to have a equal voice.) the fact that they would have absolute power would squash any minority political views. How would the congressional nations be pooled in beside common vote? Would it be WA Delegates only? Or open to all WA nations?
3- anything that passes through the WA is able to be repealed, barring any game feature. If a law is passed by the Congress/Judges and the general populous disagree with that law how would they get what they want it its impossible to repeal?
Ooc its not possible to make game features pop into nothing and to be replaced with a player based plan, as the creator is a very busy person, and so are the moderators.

The part I bolded here made me laugh terribly. One nation (Pallaith) gets like, 1000 votes

The idea is one nations vote is equal to one vote.People may agree with that one nation, or that one nation is breaking one of the websites rules and using puppets in the WA. Not entirety sure on that one.

[The Sheika]

The part I bolded here made me laugh terribly. One nation (Pallaith) gets like, 1000 votes

The idea is one nations vote is equal to one vote.People may agree with that one nation, or that one nation is breaking one of the websites rules and using puppets in the WA. Not entirety sure on that one.

OOC: The reason behind having so many votes is they have 981 endorsements and serve as a Delegate. So in a sense, the nations who endorsed them trust them enough to carry that kind of voting weight.

We now return to the scheduled proposal debate.

[Serrus]

OOC: There's a pattern to this:
Spectacularly impossible grand idea, followed by an abomination, followed by a bad proposal, followed by a questionably legal proposal, followed by a legal proposal that's bad, followed by a spectacularly impossible grand idea...
all dumped straight into the queue and then taken to drafting...
Keshiland, please learn from this...please...

[Wolflandil]

The idea is one nations vote is equal to one vote.People may agree with that one nation, or that one nation is breaking one of the websites rules and using puppets in the WA. Not entirety sure on that one.

OOC: The reason behind having so many votes is they have 981 endorsements and serve as a Delegate. So in a sense, the nations who endorsed them trust them enough to carry that kind of voting weight.

We now return to the scheduled proposal debate.

55Ooc:thank you for the clarification .

[The Greater Siriusian Domain]

OOC: For your continued refusal to attempt to actually learn how to write a proposal, I've added you to my foes list.

[Thyerata]

Keshiland: an example of NS on steroids.

And I might follow TGSD and add him to my foes list...

[The New California Republic]

Noting- that this will be controversial
Wishing- that it was more of a government and less of a common wealth
hoping- for a stronger grander world body.

replacement
The World Congress.

I- The election
a- The WA members elect 31 members to the Congress every 60 days

II- Power
a-The Congress gets the sole power to introduce and pass legislation
b- Congress appoints 3 judges

III- Legality
a- the judges vote on each passed law is legal
b- ruling is final

OOC: What more can I say to this that I haven't already said in the discussions about your other garbage proposals? Please stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.

IC: The Ambassador for The New California Republic walks down one of the hallways inside the World Assembly Headquarters. He walks by Keshiland's office, stops, shudders and winces, and then continues down the hallway at a faster pace.

[Grays Harbor]

Prediction for the course of events: Yet another spectacularly illegal idea written badly. To be followed by the tantrum when ruled incredibly illegal. Followed by how the Mods are biased against them, the GASec are mod-puppets, and everybody who points out how bad the idea is is a "hater". Submit the illegal draft anyhow. Rinse, repeat.

Read the rules. UNDERSTAND the rules. Stop submitting utter garbage. Listen to those of us who have a clue how this works, because you quite obviously don't and refuse to bother learning.

Your "career" in the GA may well already be nonredeemable at this point given the blatant disregard you have shown for everybody and everything. Especially considering that even the most helpful and tolerant folks here have grown tired of this lunacy.