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Infrastructure, how should it work?

Similar to the mass effect system of generating credits and using those credits to purchase units and more buildings.
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9%
Some buildings create credits, others create units. You are limited by both when you create an army as you must take both limits into account. (My recommendation)
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36%
Every year we get a finite number of credits and soldiers, and we must choose how to spend them. How we spend them will effect next year.
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No votes
There should be a population limit on how much troops that can be made.
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2%
We should implement a trading system.
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16%
Resources should be mined to build certain ships.
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18%
There should be an upkeep cost.
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7%
There should be no infrastructure system, we just rp it.
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11%
I only want to use one vote, so ya.
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2%
 
Total votes : 45

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Alpha Centauri (Discussion thread)

Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:11 am

Just a small thread for us to discuss the hard sci Fi concept we are working on. Nothing definitive, so don't expect anything for a while.

WIP

What we need:
Established factions and lore
Size of Map
Infrastructure and Military reform
Research reform

What we have so far:
I haven't started writing all the lore yet, but I do have an idea of separating the lore into three categories. Instead of a concrete 'Wikipedia' that others to give a definitive backstory, I want to use biased news articles, books, and reports from inside the world.

Alpha Centauri
Year: 2161

4.3 Light years. Travel Time: 7.8 Earth Years.

Tierra: Habitable Ecosystem. Fourth Planet. Earth-like planet. 1 Day= 3.24 Earth Days.

Barren Planets:
Shuǐxīng: Closest Planet to the Star, named after the Chinese name for Mercury. No atmosphere
Jīnxīng: Second Closest to the Star, named after the Chinese Name for Venus. No atmosphere
Марс: Third Closest planet to the Star, named after the Russian Name for Mars. Poisonous Atmosphere.

Gas Giants:
AC Gas Giant-I: Noted for Rich resourced planets.
AC Gas Giant II:
Ac Gas Giant III: Twin set rings
AC Gas Giant-IV:

History and Economics:
From Korea to South Chinese Sea: How the Democrats lost Asia
European Investment? Is the EU still safe?
Success on Mars: NASA lands man on the Red Planet
Africa Diaspora and its effects on the West
Iran vs. Saudi Arabia...Winner: Israel
The Short Dynasty: How the Chinese Real Estate Crash fueled Asian Stagnation.
UBI's middling success in Canada
American Reemergence in the New Century
History of Russian Mining from Siberia to the Moon to Europa.
NSC-164
SUCCESS! The crew of the MARCO POLO has left our Solar System.
How Humans destroyed life on Tierra.
Why you should invest in Alpha Centauri!

Science, Technology, and Climate:
Climate Change and the Bangladesh Crisis
Can we handle VR?
I wrote a book!
The Pentagon's New Toy: How the new Explorer Space Shuttles promises cheaper Space Flight
Seattle Genetics v. United States
Skynet Delayed: Explaining the absence of true AI
Predictions on the Cybernetic and Android market in the coming year.
Electronic Arts v. France
Explaining the Marco Polo extinction event on Tierra.

Styles and Personal Lives:
What is Uncanny Sickness? Understanding the symptoms and treatment.
Twenty five styles that are making a comeback! Fifteen will SHOCK you!
Wackos, CEOs, and Pioneers-meet the people moving to Tierra.
The age of Apathy and Depravity: When four billion people live in a Fairy Tale.
Who wants to be Ugly? A study on unattainable beauty standards for the modern woman.
How BIG BROTHER watches you in VR! How to protect yourself!
Religion making a Comeback?


First pole winner:
Dying Chinese Superpower, American resurgence, multi polar world
Runner-up:
Corporate run world, nations exist in name only.

Second poll winner:
Yes, as a swarm intelligence. It is a hive mind that exists throughout the system and is a danger to us.
Runner Up:
Yes, as a Lovecraftian Abomination. A faction of humans serves it and it guides them.
Nope:
Yes, as primitive Asari women. Same as the primitive tribes but humanoid, blue, and fanservicey.
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Postby Nuxipal » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:58 pm

Putting in a tag, if only for giving my opinion and insight to this new endeavor.
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Postby Rygondria » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:22 pm

Tag

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:29 pm

So some of you mentioned original ideas, what were they ?

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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:42 pm

Do we control corporations, nations, both or characters?

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:48 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:Do we control corporations, nations, both or characters?

Factions basically.

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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:00 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Monarchy of Japanada wrote:Do we control corporations, nations, both or characters?

Factions basically.

So..both? Does that mean I could control an earth nation?

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:04 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Factions basically.

So..both? Does that mean I could control an earth nation?

Well no, it takes a few years to get to AC, so the plan is to focus on the little band of colonies. The idea for the rp came from a discussion we had a resurrected MEF forum.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=402860
Here it's like the last few pages when it comes up in discussion.
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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:09 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Monarchy of Japanada wrote:So..both? Does that mean I could control an earth nation?

Well no, it takes a few years to get to AC, so the plan is to focus on the little band of colonies. The idea for the rp came from a discussion we had a resurrected MEF forum.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=402860
Here it's like the last few pages when it comes up in discussion.

Can I have a canuck colony, eh?

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:37 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Well no, it takes a few years to get to AC, so the plan is to focus on the little band of colonies. The idea for the rp came from a discussion we had a resurrected MEF forum.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=402860
Here it's like the last few pages when it comes up in discussion.

Can I have a canuck colony, eh?

Sure, but we are still working on the back story

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Postby Elerian » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:17 pm

Tag.

If you've ever played Freelancer NAI maybe we should take some from their plot. If you haven't played/heard of it then I'd suggest looking up a summary.

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:23 pm

Elerian wrote:Tag.

If you've ever played Freelancer NAI maybe we should take some from their plot. If you haven't played/heard of it then I'd suggest looking up a summary.

Never heard of it, is it a PC game?

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Postby Elerian » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:31 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Elerian wrote:Tag.

If you've ever played Freelancer NAI maybe we should take some from their plot. If you haven't played/heard of it then I'd suggest looking up a summary.

Never heard of it, is it a PC game?


Yeah. It's an old one, but I feel as though the premise is still good.

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Is this an open endeavor? And if so, how does one become accepted?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:14 pm

Eyy, good to see this is a thing. I can help put together some buildings and tech and stuff in the morning, depending on how 4X we want to go.
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Postby Plzen » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:33 pm

Tag. I think maybe G-Tech Corporation has the right idea with a 4X concept.

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Postby North America Inc » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:51 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Eyy, good to see this is a thing. I can help put together some buildings and tech and stuff in the morning, depending on how 4X we want to go.

Today I learned a new TV Trope. However can you explain what you mean in detail?

Anyways I think the smartest decision would be to have three varieties on infrastructure: Garden, Space, and Universal.

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North America Inc wrote:Never heard of it, is it a PC game?


Yeah. It's an old one, but I feel as though the premise is still good.

It sounds like Game of Thrones in space with the families.

Inoroth wrote:Is this an open endeavor? And if so, how does one become accepted?

No applications are being accepted we are merely discussing the lore and gameplay right now. But feel free to contribute.

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Postby Elerian » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:58 pm

Elerian wrote:
Yeah. It's an old one, but I feel as though the premise is still good.

It sounds like Game of Thrones in space with the families.


It might be a worthwhile premise to say that the Sol system was devastated in a war, and some colony ships were sent out from several nations to colonize Alpha Centauri.
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Postby Plzen » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:04 am

North America Inc wrote:Anyways I think the smartest decision would be to have three varieties on infrastructure: Garden, Space, and Universal.

Abstract is good, for a roleplay like this. :)

Perhaps a core economic basis of commercial industry/military industry/spacefaring industry, and then a few other odds and ends to add to that core basis.



Elerian wrote:It might be a worthwhile premise to say that the Sol system was devastated in a war, and some colony ships were sent out from several nations to colonize Alpha Centauri.

This is an idea that really does not appeal to me.

If the Sol System was devastated in a war, sending very expensive colonial ventures to the next system over is not going to be a very high priority.
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Postby North America Inc » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:12 am

Elerian wrote:
It sounds like Game of Thrones in space with the families.


It might be a worthwhile premise to say that the Sol system was devastated in a war, and some colony ships were sent out from several nations to colonize Alpha Centauri.

We can use conflict back home to explain looser control on the colonies but I think the personally the trope of destroyed Earth is to overdone.

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North America Inc wrote:Anyways I think the smartest decision would be to have three varieties on infrastructure: Garden, Space, and Universal.

Abstract is good, for a roleplay like this. :)

Perhaps a core economic basis of commercial industry/military industry/spacefaring industry, and then a few other odds and ends to add to that core basis.



Elerian wrote:It might be a worthwhile premise to say that the Sol system was devastated in a war, and some colony ships were sent out from several nations to colonize Alpha Centauri.

This is an idea that really does not appeal to me.

If the Sol System was devastated in a war, sending very expensive colonial ventures to the next system over is not going to be a very high priority.

It's just that we need to first decide the size of the place before we can discuss infrastructure.

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Postby Elerian » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:15 am

North America Inc wrote:-Snip-


To each their own. I'd suggest again that we have a cluster with each faction owning its own system and having a few unclaimed systems to fight over.

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Postby North America Inc » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:21 am

Elerian wrote:
North America Inc wrote:-Snip-


To each their own. I'd suggest again that we have a cluster with each faction owning its own system and having a few unclaimed systems to fight over.

The issue then would be the number of garden worlds, I think we should only have one to increase is value. The rest of us are forced into bio domes and space stations and this being the source of conflict.

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Postby Plzen » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:21 am

Elerian wrote:
North America Inc wrote:-Snip-


To each their own. I'd suggest again that we have a cluster with each faction owning its own system and having a few unclaimed systems to fight over.

If the inspiration is Alpha Centauri, why not just set in on Planet and environs?

As poster above suggests, one habitable planet, raises its value.
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Postby Elerian » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:24 am

North America Inc wrote:
Elerian wrote:
To each their own. I'd suggest again that we have a cluster with each faction owning its own system and having a few unclaimed systems to fight over.

The issue then would be the number of garden worlds, I think we should only have one to increase is value. The rest of us are forced into bio domes and space stations and this being the source of conflict.


So one system, with only one planet that's worth anything?

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Postby Inoroth » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:56 am

North America Inc wrote:
Inoroth wrote:Is this an open endeavor? And if so, how does one become accepted?

No applications are being accepted we are merely discussing the lore and gameplay right now. But feel free to contribute.


Sweet! I love lore-building!

Elerian wrote:So one system, with only one planet that's worth anything?


I also like the idea of one garden world. It should be split up, I think: real estate sold to different factions/companies/eccentric billionaires with different agendas, and obviously territorial disputes and turf wars are an avenue of story conflict.

Also, I think law enforcement should be weak (or at least concentrated in a planetary "capitol" or something". I'm thinking a group of Earth-appointed policemen patrol the planet like Wild West Marshalls, the ultimate expression of the Earth Law, yet loners who make their own justice far from accountability. I also see them clashing with faction-appointed lawmen like town sheriffs over who enforces what law.
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