{submitted} Repealing Responsibility in Transferring Arms

[Keshiland]

General Assembly Resolution #399 “Responsibility in Transferring Arms” (Category: Global Disarmament; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

WA
I hear by ask to repeal Responsibility In Transferring Arms.

Noting- that this legislation protects the citizens and residents of the WA nations from a total gun ban.

Thus- It is a draconian piece of legislation.

Consequences- This will end up causing the deaths of millions or billions across the WA nations since nations will have to maneuver around restrictions in keeping their own safe.

Fixing- By repealing this legislation the nations will be safer and problem solved.

Replacement

World Assembly,

Acknowledging that some nations have a gun culture.

Act one- Regulation
I- All gun owners must register their guns to an international list.
II- The year, make, and model of the gun must be registered
III- The type of ammunition must be registered.

Act two- Confiscation
I- All gun owners that are not part of the army will have 1 month to turn in said guns.
II- The law enforcement will be given the right after the 1 month period is up to stop citizens and residents indiscriminately to check for guns.
III- All citizens found with a gun shall be punished with no less than 5 years incarcerated.

Act three- Bans
I- A full and complete ammunition ban will take place immediately.
II- A full and complete ban on automatic guns will take place immediately.
III- A full and complete ban on semi automatic guns will take place immediately.
IV- A full and complete ban on hand guns will take place immediately.
V- A full and complete ban on rifle guns will take place immediately.
VI- A full and complete ban on revolver guns will take place immediately.

Act four- Exceptions
I- All military personnel shall be exempt from this law.

The WA nations are required to enforce this law.

[Separatist Peoples]

"What possible benefit is there in allowing an international ban on guns? How does C.D.S.P. firearms ownership possibly impact Keshiland?"

[Keshiland]

"What possible benefit is there in allowing an international ban on guns? How does C.D.S.P. firearms ownership possibly impact Keshiland?"

"It visiously removed my totaal gun ban on my people and now mass killing is happening left and right" Yells Sackeshi!

[Separatist Peoples]

"What possible benefit is there in allowing an international ban on guns? How does C.D.S.P. firearms ownership possibly impact Keshiland?"

"It visiously removed my totaal gun ban on my people and now mass killing is happening left and right" Yells Sackeshi!

"You can still ban guns in your nation, ambassador. Just not in other nations."

[Sierra Lyricalia]

General Assembly Resolution #399 “Responsibility in Transferring Arms” (Category: Global Disarmament; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

WA
I hear by ask to repeal Responsibility In Transferring Arms.

OOC: Branding violation.

Noting- that this legislation protects the citizens and residents of the WA nations from a total gun ban.

Thus- It is a draconian piece of legislation.

"Draconian - adjective. Excessively harsh and severe, as of laws. Ambassador, you can't just make words mean what you want. A blocker that prevents the WA from enacting a total ban on anything cannot be 'draconian,' by definition."

Consequences- This will end up causing the deaths of millions or billions across the WA nations since nations will have to maneuver around restrictions in keeping their own safe.

"Even if this were true - which I doubt - those lives would be vastly outweighed by the number of lives saved elsewhere because conquerors, tyrants, and warlords can't buy weapons from WA member states."

EDIT: OOC: Since nothing prevents nations from individually carrying out whatever firearms laws they want (subject to future WA legislation on the specified topics), this is also an Honest Mistake.

Fixing- By repealing this legislation the nations will be safer and problem solved.

"Bullsh... uh, Baloney."

Replacement

World Assembly,

Acknowledging that some nations have a gun culture.

Act one- Regulation
I- All gun owners must register their guns to an international list.
II- The year, make, and model of the gun must be registered
III- The type of ammunition must be registered.

Act two- Confiscation
I- All gun owners that are not part of the army will have 1 month to turn in said guns.
II- The law enforcement will be given the right after the 1 month period is up to stop citizens and residents indiscriminately to check for guns.
III- All citizens found with a gun shall be punished with no less than 5 years incarcerated.

Act three- Bans
I- A full and complete ammunition ban will take place immediately.
II- A full and complete ban on automatic guns will take place immediately.
III- A full and complete ban on semi automatic guns will take place immediately.
IV- A full and complete ban on hand guns will take place immediately.
V- A full and complete ban on rifle guns will take place immediately.
VI- A full and complete ban on revolver guns will take place immediately.

Act four- Exceptions
I- All military personnel shall be exempt from this law.

The WA nations are required to enforce this law.

OOC: Either you need to make a separate thread for this separate resolution, or else you're legislating in a repeal, which is illegal.

[Bears Armed]

• 11 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of Keshiland submitted a proposal to the General Assembly Repeals Board entitled "Repeal "Responsibility in Transferring Arms"".
• 12 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of Keshiland withdrew a proposal from the WA General Assembly titled "Repeal "Responsibility in Transferring Arms"".
• 23 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of Keshiland submitted a proposal to the General Assembly Repeals Board entitled "Repeal "Responsibility in Transferring Arms"".
• 23 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of Keshiland withdrew a proposal from the WA General Assembly titled "Repeal "Responsibility in Transferring Arms"".
• 24 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of Keshiland submitted a proposal to the General Assembly Repeals Board entitled "Repeal "Responsibility in Transferring Arms"".

Keshiland, please draft your proposals here for long enough to receive expert opinion on their legality: Do NOT just submit version after version in quick sucession in the hope that one of them will get through.

[Tinfect Diplomatic Enclave]

Noting- that this legislation protects the citizens and residents of the WA nations from a total gun ban.

Feren enters the chamber, again, entirely alone. "It does many things, some of which are legitimate grounds for repeal. This is neither."

Thus- It is a draconian piece of legislation.

"One can hardly consider the regulation of international arms transfers draconian on the grounds that it allows Member-States to make their own decisions on the subject of national firearm policy."

Consequences- This will end up causing the deaths of millions or billions across the WA nations since nations will have to maneuver around restrictions in keeping their own safe.

"The exemption to the limitation of arms transfers can be quite broadly interpreted; and the regulations on the transfer itself are rather common-sense. In fact, besides a rather questionable clause that restricts high-risk transfers, the resolution is, despite the former stance of the Imperium on it, quite acceptable."

Fixing- By repealing this legislation the nations will be safer and problem solved.

"That is not a reasonable assumption to make."

Replacement

"Is... is this a second draft, Ambassador? I must say, I feel rather deceived, I was not prepared to debate two drafts. Unless you intend to place this within the repeal, at which point I must remind you that such is entirely illegal."

Acknowledging that some nations have a gun culture.

"Hopefully one that does not involve random citizens waving them about in public spaces."

All gun owners must register their guns to an international list.

"Do you intend to define 'gun owners', or do you intend to require Member-States that maintain Militaries to register themselves to the World Assembly?"

The year, make, and model of the gun must be registered

"Is that year of production, development, service, sale? And I must note that Member-States will maintain quite large stocks of weapons on themselves. Member-States which engage in heavy production of Firearms would be in quite the large amount of paperwork. While Civil Oversight keeps staff on hand to deal with such bureaucracy, registering each individual firearm in a total that numbers in the billions, is not exactly practical."

The type of ammunition must be registered.

"Which may not be quite so descriptive as you believe for more advanced weaponry. And I will note that the Imperium has no intention of handing hostile forces exact weapon specifications, such would be quite an extreme breach of Imperial Information Security, and would undoubtedly constitute a substantial threat to the safety and security of the Imperium and it's Citizens."

All gun owners that are not part of the army will have 1 month to turn in said guns.

" 'the army', Ambassador? You are aware that the term refers to ground forces, yes? Naval, or Aircraft forces would be required to turn in their armaments to another branch of the Military. As would Law-Enforcement, for that matter, where it is distinct from 'the army'. "

The law enforcement will be given the right after the 1 month period is up to stop citizens and residents indiscriminately to check for guns.

"Ambassador, I do not believe the word 'indiscriminately' means what you think it does. Random, unauthorized checks on Citizens to see whether or not they're hiding firearms is something of an abuse of power."

All citizens found with a gun shall be punished with no less than 5 years incarcerated.

"This again, does not exempt members of Military and Law Enforcement, or those otherwise authorized by the State to carry firearms. I do not believe the Imperium would be successful in ordering the arrest of the entirety of its Military and Law-Enforcement."

A full and complete ammunition ban will take place immediately.

"So Military Forces are allowed to maintain weapons, but not ammunition? That's... somewhat absurd."

A full and complete ban on automatic guns will take place immediately.
III- A full and complete ban on semi automatic guns will take place immediately.
IV- A full and complete ban on hand guns will take place immediately.
V- A full and complete ban on rifle guns will take place immediately.
VI- A full and complete ban on revolver guns will take place immediately.

"Or they cannot maintain weapons? Make up your mind, Ambassador."

I- All military personnel shall be exempt from this law.

"That is in complete contravention of literally everything else in the resolution. If you only intend to prohibit civilian ownership, write a draft that does that, don't write one that maniacally hops from position-to-position only to take a stand at the very end.

In any case, I do not believe the Imperium will be supporting... either of these."

[Essu Beti]

Iksana sighs. "Ambassador Sackeshi, you are free to ban guns in your own nation. If you try to ban them in mine, I believe you'll find your proposal completely unenforceable. For one, my nation does not have prisons capable of long-term confinement. We just don't have the economy necessary to feed and house nonworking criminals. A few days until trial, yes. Five years, no."

"Secondly, you've just banned guns from the law enforcement that are supposedly going to enforce this for you. I suspect ever so slightly that they may be a bit unsympathic to any attempts by the WA, or, I suspect, your nation alone, to making their jobs that much harder."

"Thirdly, we don't have a military. We have a series of local militias. Rest assured that exactly zero people in Essu Beti will comply with your attempt to render my nation completely helpless against invasion."

"Fourth, I'm playing the "my people were massacred" card because it's been a while since I last trotted it out. My people were denied weapons in the old country. And then we were murdered, not just by kasidutim* but by ordinary citizens wielding blades and fire. We couldn't defend ourselves against them. We will not go unarmed again."

((*South Tenahuarian military police))

[Imperium Anglorum]

As the person who repealed RAT II, opposed. I don't think any of the arguments used here are convincing. Then again, there isn't much of an argument used here at all – a certain generosity of spirit need be applied when argumentation is eschewed for unsubstantiated assertion.

[Grays Harbor]

Our opinion on this latest nonsense from Keshiland.

The Repeal: simplistic and idiotic does not make for a good repeal effort.

The Replacement: laughable twaddle.

[The Sheika]

Ambassador Sakeshi, before I say anything about your submitted proposal, what happened to posting a draft here to get feedback before submitting? It's a waste of time to submit it only to withdraw it and submit it over and over again. That said, we get it, you don't like firearms. It's a shame, but that's how you feel about it. What happens in Keshiland in regards to firearms is not my problem, but when an ambassador from Keshiland wants to mettle with firearm ownership in other nations, that is a problem.

Doubly so with how invasive you want this to be. Granting law enforcement to, as you put it, indiscriminately check for guns. So if Johnny Law felt inclined to stop Jane Q. Taxpayer for no other reason other than "he felt like it" is okay with you? If there was probable cause, I would almost be alright with it...but almost is still quite a long shot from being acceptable.

And no less than five years of incarceration for having a firearm? Hey, if you want to run a tin pot dictatorship, you can feel free to keep it within your borders. No less than five years? Do you even have any idea how much changes in five years? Do you even understand how many lives you would destroy just because you hate firearms? And spare me the whole "If they break the law, they deserve to be punished!" shtick. If you must have a ban, which I doubt you will gain enough support, let the punishment fit the crime.

No support from the Militaristic Federation of the Sheika.

[Damukuni]

So in spite of all the rules this thing *has* to violate, Ambassador... let me just pass you this sheet, with a few words from your proposal replaced with something else, and please explain to me how your legislation differs in principle from what you have proposed.

Respectfully yours,

Sorihito Tsunekawa
Ambassador to the World Assembly
The United States of Damukuni

World Assembly,
 
Acknowledging that some nations have a football culture.
 
Act one- Regulation
I- All football owners must register their footballs to an international list.
II- The year, make, and model of the football must be registered
III- The type of football spikes must be registered.
 
Act two- Confiscation
I- All football owners that are not part of the Football League Championship Series* will have 1 month to turn in said footballs.
II- The law enforcement will be given the right after the 1 month period is up to stop citizens and residents indiscriminately to check for footballs.
III- All citizens found with a football shall be punished with no less than 5 years of being red-carded every time they walk onto a pitch.
 
Act three- Bans
I- A full and complete football spikes ban will take place immediately.
II- A full and complete ban on football matches will take place immediately.
III- A full and complete ban on football kits, including replicas, will take place immediately.
IV- A full and complete ban on corner flags will take place immediately.
V- A full and complete ban on goal nets will take place immediately.
VI- A full and complete ban on football stadiums will take place immediately.

*OOC: Damukuni's domestic football/soccer league.

[Thermodolia]

Act four- Exceptions
I- All military personnel shall be exempt from this law.

"Well this is absolutely bullshit." Eve curtly said. "And besides we found a major loophole in this bill. Almost every Thermodolian is required to preform military service and since we still considered them to be military members even whenever they have been out of the military for a while they can still own guns due to your loophole. Thank you for letting our entire nation be exempt."