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The Noble Thatcherites
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The ability to put boxes in boxes

Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:08 pm

My proposal: The ability to put boxes inside boxes.

Having this change would make dispatches so much better to read and more organised. Please allow me to give an example. In this (https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=826910) dispatch I would have wanted to put the amended bits in boxes (They are currently surrounded by ugly horizontal lines). In this instance, adding this change would allow for making quotes more clear and concise within boxes.

If this change is to be considered I would recommend that the moderators would only let one box be inside another, that way we don't end up with a situation with a million box tags. :p

I don't know how easy this is to implement, but a change like this would do a great deal for dispatch makers. My thinking is that lists can overlap and have several lists within them, boxes should operate in a similar manner, being able to put a box within a box. Unlike lists however, boxes shouldnt be able to have more than 1 box "layer" inside of another box (as previously stated).
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Postby Kanglia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:15 pm

I could see it being helpful, it'd certainly make everything less cluttered in the raw format
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Postby RantSpot » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:14 am

I very much like this idea. Nesting capability is always a good thing, especially for hierarchical organization.

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Postby Kremlinian Islands » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:17 am

If we put the boxes in the boxes, how would people know they are boxes? Genius, now Snake can hide without being seen as a man in a box.
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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:42 am

Kremlinian Islands wrote:If we put the boxes in the boxes, how would people know they are boxes? Genius, now Snake can hide without being seen as a man in a box.

Umm. Okay...

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Postby Amerion » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:38 pm

Maybe let like 5 boxes be in one. I very much like the idea though :)

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:36 pm

The reason this restriction was placed on the forums was because spammers created annoying recursive box spam battles. I imagine we continued the practice on gameside formatting for the same reasons.

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:33 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:The reason this restriction was placed on the forums was because spammers created annoying recursive box spam battles. I imagine we continued the practice on gameside formatting for the same reasons.
Is there any way that this restriction could be lifted game side to at least allow one layer of boxes to go within a box? I can't see how this might affect things game side as boxes can only really be used in dispatches and fact books. Thank you.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:33 pm

I like this idea, but I also understand where Frisbeeteria is coming from. Certainly there must be a way to restrict the amount of boxes that can be placed inside of boxes? I also had a thought about adding the ability to add custom outlines to dispatches, like vines going around the outside of a dispatch, or stars or hearts or what not. Is that even possible?
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Postby Ctelixii » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:38 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:The reason this restriction was placed on the forums was because spammers created annoying recursive box spam battles. I imagine we continued the practice on gameside formatting for the same reasons.

Like the way that quotes can only be nested up to two layers, perhaps a similar deal could be done with boxes? Outside of the realm of spamming, I cannot see any need for more than two layers of boxes, with one extra layer for 'breathing room'.

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Postby Werreales » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:59 am

Ctelixii wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:The reason this restriction was placed on the forums was because spammers created annoying recursive box spam battles. I imagine we continued the practice on gameside formatting for the same reasons.

Like the way that quotes can only be nested up to two layers, perhaps a similar deal could be done with boxes? Outside of the realm of spamming, I cannot see any need for more than two layers of boxes, with one extra layer for 'breathing room'.

I am for this option since it is easy to be implemented in CSS:

Code: Select all
.container > .box > .box .box {
  display: none;
}

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:55 pm

Anyone else have comments or ideas?

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:31 pm

Anyone else agree that this should be a thing?

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Postby The Diamond Confederacy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:46 pm

Sure because why not.

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Postby Phoenix Coalition » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:19 pm

I completely agree with this.

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Postby Zaegrad » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:18 pm

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Postby Glaciosia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:21 pm

This is an amazing idea! This would make formatting these things so much easier! I hope this gets implemented ASAP.
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Postby The Glorious Hypetrain » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:05 pm

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Postby Archuria Centauri » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:27 pm

I think this makes sense. I also like the sensible suggestion that only one box can go in a box, because otherwise that could be a mess. Sometimes, you just need to subdivide your dispatches into more than just inside a box and outside a box.

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:12 pm

Archuria Centauri wrote:I think this makes sense. I also like the sensible suggestion that only one box can go in a box, because otherwise that could be a mess. Sometimes, you just need to subdivide your dispatches into more than just inside a box and outside a box.
I completely agree!

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Postby Minoa » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:40 pm

I would support this, but also wish to be able to control the width of the boxes. At the moment, I have to line break, which is annoying when I have to update the information.
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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:18 am

Minoa wrote:I would support this, but also wish to be able to control the width of the boxes. At the moment, I have to line break, which is annoying when I have to update the information.

I don't know how easy that would be to code, but I would be in support of that if it was possible. :)

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Postby [violet] » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:32 pm

Minoa wrote:I would support this, but also wish to be able to control the width of the boxes. At the moment, I have to line break, which is annoying when I have to update the information.

Perhaps the solution there is a new tag type ([sidebar] or something), which would behave as a float-right box with a max-width, and allow [box]es inside it.

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Postby The Noble Thatcherites » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:16 pm

[violet] wrote:
Minoa wrote:I would support this, but also wish to be able to control the width of the boxes. At the moment, I have to line break, which is annoying when I have to update the information.

Perhaps the solution there is a new tag type ([sidebar] or something), which would behave as a float-right box with a max-width, and allow [box]es inside it.
That sounds like a wonderful way to fix that problem. I'm sure slot of people would use it. Perhaps a side bar would take up exactly a third of the page. How would you align the sidebars Violet? Or would you only have them by default on the right side?

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Postby [violet] » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:49 pm

I've implemented [sidebar] just as a testing feature -- don't use it for anything permanent yet, as it may change, or be removed.

It's like [floatright] + [box] + width-limited to a maximum of 360 pixels. This means it sits off to the right on desktop screens, but takes up the whole screen on mobile.

I realize this isn't the same as boxes-within-boxes as per the OP request, but lemme know if you find it useful.

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