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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:50 am

Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.
What's your take on all of Asia(no not my queens name....im talking about the continent) uniting into a giant empire. From japan to Vietnam and everyone in between. What would the world look like after that? Could we live in peace. Where does north korea fit into all this?!? so many questions ......Provide the answers!!!
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:53 am

So, we can expect the merger of North Korea and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Iran and Iraq, and the joys that are India and Pakistan... yes, absolutely a good idea. :roll:
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:53 am

Tinhampton wrote:So, we can expect the merger of North Korea and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Iran and Iraq, and the joys that are India and Pakistan... yes, absolutely a good idea. :roll:

sarcasm?
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Postby Tokora » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:55 am

I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:56 am

Tokora wrote:I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

if it was led by india im sure Pakistan would object....
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:58 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:So, we can expect the merger of North Korea and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Iran and Iraq, and the joys that are India and Pakistan... yes, absolutely a good idea. :roll:

sarcasm?

You'd be right on that count.
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Postby Orioni 2 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:58 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.

Do have a look at ASEAN.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:03 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:So, we can expect the merger of North Korea and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Iran and Iraq, and the joys that are India and Pakistan... yes, absolutely a good idea. :roll:

sarcasm?

Very much so. But no Asia can't unite because of several factors

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language: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Asia
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Religion: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Asia

Just like Africa it will be impossible to unite unless all people living in Asia spoke only a couple different common languages like mandarin, Arabic, English, or Hindu plus the economic and political aspects of a united Asia would be horrendous as their are roughly 4.2 billion people living their. So long story short it won't happen
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:06 am

It would never happen, and shouldn't ever happen. Cultures in Asia are too different to one another. One group would eventually be favoured over the others.
It should not be attempted or supported.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:07 am

Given that you have North Korea, India Pakistan, China and Japan...yeah that would not work out at all.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:09 am

There's an easy way to unite Asia. Though, it does involve necromancy and Mongol raiders...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:12 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.
What's your take on all of Asia(no not my queens name....im talking about the continent) uniting into a giant empire. From japan to Vietnam and everyone in between. What would the world look like after that? Could we live in peace. Where does north korea fit into all this?!? so many questions ......Provide the answers!!!

Japan to Vietnam and everything in between?

That's like talking about uniting all of North America, from Florida to Newfoundland.
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Postby Minoa » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:12 am

Valrifell wrote:There's an easy way to unite Asia. Though, it does involve necromancy and Mongol raiders...

ASEAN?
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Postby Tomie » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:13 am

Tokora wrote:I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

Orioni 2 wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.

Do have a look at ASEAN.

Japan blew its credit during the Second World War. India is a sociopolitical construct.
ASEAN is the new SEATO and destined to share its fate.

China will lead the way.

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Postby Ryanasic » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:14 am

I love how everyone thinks Asia=Only south,southeast and east asia.
Russia wouldnt give siberia to this state,ever.
No one from the middle east either.
Central Asia would be too busy being russian puppets to do it
The caucasus is very nationalistic,so they wouldnt either.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:20 am

Asia is a hell of a lot bigger than "Japan to Vietnam and everyone in between." And the reason it has never been suggested, OP, is because it's a stupid idea with no logic to it. Asia is the largest continent on Earth, constituting almost a third of the planet's land area and home to over half the human population. It's also home to a great variety of different cultures and societies with huge differences. Just to emphasise how ridiculously diverse this hypothetical Asian union would be, within this union, you'd have most of the Islamic world, the Sinosphere, the Hindu world, Russia and central Asia. That's a lot of different countries and regions with enormously varying levels of development and markedly different cultures and worldviews. Most likely the union would be dominated by the rivalry between its two largest members, India and China, together making up over half the continent's population. You'd also have to deal with the deep-seated ambivalence between India and Pakistan, China, Korea and Japan, the Arab states and Iran, China and the other nations of the South China Sea, etc. There's simply no commonality on which to base such a union.
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Postby Minoa » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:23 am

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Postby War Gears » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:39 am

There are too many cultural differences, historical grievances, and other factors which would prevent this from happening. So no.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.
What's your take on all of Asia(no not my queens name....im talking about the continent) uniting into a giant empire. From japan to Vietnam and everyone in between. What would the world look like after that? Could we live in peace. Where does north korea fit into all this?!? so many questions ......Provide the answers!!!

Japan to Vietnam and everything in between?

That's like talking about uniting all of North America, from Florida to Newfoundland.


Panama to Greenland which has a better chance of succeeding compared to an Asian unification.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:41 am

Tomie wrote:
Tokora wrote:I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

Orioni 2 wrote:Do have a look at ASEAN.

Japan blew its credit during the Second World War. India is a sociopolitical construct.
ASEAN is the new SEATO and destined to share its fate.

China will lead the way.

Glad to see Real China's going to lead Asia into a glorious future.

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Postby Aboim » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:36 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Ive seen so many American unification ,African unifications, European unification, and etc. But I've never heard of anyone wanting Asian unification.


Ok. Let’s try.

Countries like North Korea and Saudi Arabia are families' private property, and I have no idea why these people would give up an entire nation.

Hindus and Muslims, Jews and Muslims, Japanese and rest of Asia, all these people have hard historical issues.

Beijing likes a cultural uniformity, especially when we talk about religion. Can you imagine Mecca, Tehran and Jerusalem accepting that? Not to mention the other Asian traditions.

Would democratic nations like Japan, South Korea, Israel and India accept to be the next Hong Kong?

Russians may lobby to drag the economic, political and cultural power to Moscow and the European Axis.

Some Japanese are still proud to be a “nation of one race”, while Singapore have a lot of faith in their small and rigid social system.

In contrast, capital punishment wouldn’t be a controversial issue :)

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:42 am

Well, what constitutes as Asian? The far east is often included. The Stans as well. And the ME too.

Yah, no, would never happen.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:46 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Hey let's a play a game. Guess my view on the subject

Apples, no, tangerines.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:47 am

Sovaal wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Hey let's a play a game. Guess my view on the subject

Apples, no, tangerines.

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